Transgender child rapist moved to women's prison during his sentence

To be fair, I'm all for prisoners being allowed into the prison of the sex they identify with in many respects however in the case of a rapist - no, no, no and NO!

Of course one idea would be to have small "Trans" wings in prisons where they are with their own 'gender' but separate from the others. It wouldn't have to be completely segregated, but segregated enough that other prisoners wouldn't have to be around them unless they chose to.

I thought someone had to live as a women for years before NHS treatment is given. How can someone live as a women in a male prison?

Isn't the more obvious solution to continue sex-segregating in prisons, with the freedom of gender expression left at the door along with other liberties that incarceration removes?

This is the way I lean. Sexual assault is rife in male prisons. Male violence again. So instead of the overhaul of prisons bending over backwards to take into account abuse of trans people (the symptom) the overhaul should address male violence (the problem).

No Autumn - I can't see how there's anything female about using your penis to rape a woman either.

As to the idea that once someone's got a neovagina, they should be moved - the question would be why? Men have 2 orifices of their own that can be raped, why is adding a third suddenly such a huge issue? Shouldn't the question be why is such rape allowed to happen? Or if consensual, why is it different in a neovagina?

We need a trans prison, it's the obvious solution

There aren't enough transpeople to warrant more than one prison. So you could be in a situation where you are 300 miles away from your family.

I'm not sure whether that would impinge on any other rights?

He's a rapist, sentenced to life , had surgery on the NHS, and now wants to move to a female prison.

As someone said on a previous thread, if you're going to use your penis to rape somebody, it's unlikely that you have gender dysphoria.

So he would fit the profile of an autogynephile. An autogynephile who has had his surgery paid for and now is demanding to be sent to a female prison, which is the ultimate goal of that fetish.

So many decisions have been made and just accepted at face value.

It feels weird the juxtaposition of "I feel like a woman" and being a rapist, because that feels just about as far away as you can get from feeling like a woman. Or am I too playing into gender stereotypes about men's and women's behaviour? I have interviewed women who have been in prison for some research and many have been deeply traumatised by unimaginable abuse, it's obvious why they would feel unsafe; much of this is an unconscious or subconscious response to the body identifying threat, which is why it might trigger self harm in someone who had started responding that way as a result of past trauma.

Maria Miller was warned of this. By the British Psychological Society, no less.

"Conversely, psychologists working with forensic patients are aware of a number of cases where men convicted of sex crimes have falsely claimed to be transgender females for a number of reasons:
As a means of demonstrating reduced risk and so gaining parole;
As a means of explaining their sex offending aside from sexual gratification (e.g. wanting to ‘examine’ young females);
Or as a means of separating their sex offending self (male) from their future self (female).
In rare cases it has been thought that the person is seeking better access to females and young children through presenting in an apparently female way.

"Such strategies in no way affect risk an indeed may increase it. Some people falsely believe that taking oestrogen and blocking androgen in males will reduce risk of offending, however this is not necessarily the case.

"Consequently the Society recommends that the Government give appropriate assistance to transgender people within the criminal justice system; while being extremely cautious of setting law and policy such that some of the most dangerous people in society have greater latitude to offend".

Isn't the more obvious solution to continue sex-segregating in prisons, with the freedom of gender expression left at the door along with other liberties that incarceration removes?

And then what do you do with post-op people who pass easily? I think we need a trans prison.

There seem so many of these cases, although I may just be living in an echo chamber and noticing them all. I wish somebody would do a proper academic study into propensity to commit crime, particularly sex crime and trans women. If crimes committed by MtF trans are being recorded as being committed by women I don't see how it would be possible to study. That's another thing, we need proper recording.

Isn't the more obvious solution to continue sex-segregating in prisons, with the freedom of gender expression left at the door along with other liberties that incarceration removes?

We need a trans prison, it's the obvious solution.

She's post-surgery, so yes she needs to move.

She'll probably need to go into a high security wing, for her own protection.

"In the letter to Inside Time, Winfield wrote: "Unfortunately there is a minority of staff and inmates that give me a hard time because of my sexuality, possibly through lack of understanding and empathy."

"I feel like a female trapped in a male body."

"...prison bosses have been hit with a backlash from female inmates — with one even threatening to self-harm to get away from Winfield."

But no one will ever take advantage of gender identity legislation. Course not.

And who's to say he isn't transgender. He fits the (non-existent) criteria.

It never ceases to amaze me that people like Maria Miller either didn't see this coming, or did see it coming and didn't care.

I tend to think it's the former and it's very worrying that the representative supposedly for women, knows so little about them or sexual politics in general.