Transgender child rapist moved to women's prison during his sentence

The Women's and Equalities Committee of MPs have published a report on transgender rights. They favour changing the law to allow self identification of gender. No criteria, no need for treatment or surgery or "living as a woman". Just saying you are a woman will be enough.

If they have their way, this will be happening with men with intact and functional penises in a few years.

And the Cttee also want to end the right to exclude transwoman from Women's services and spaces if appropriate which currently exists.

This woman is great. The guy is a twonk.

Yes Jeremy bringing up Ian Huntley!

On radio 2 now

It's coming up next on BBC Radio 2 Jeremy Vine show......

It's interesting the way that the media sources all subtly plagiarise each other...

I completely agree, Whereyouleftit.

His prison time has been brilliant for him. He's got everything he ever wanted handed to him on a plate - while he serves a sentence for raping two girls.

Jeremy Vine show covering - anyone fancy ringing in?

Whereyouleftit

I kind of hope Ian Huntley does transition, as it is only a high profile case like his that will get the general public to sit up and take notice of this whole farce.

Rape is not about sex, it is about power. Having total control over another, enjoying their fear and their submission.

So, Ponting has

• made the prison authorities call him another name
• made the NHS fund his surgery
• made the prison authorities move him to a women's prison
• made a female prisoner so fearful that she will self-harm if it gets her away from him
• made The Sun put him on the front page
• made all The Sun readers aware of him

Still on a power trip IMO, getting his jollies from forcing the hands of those ostensibly in control of him (the prison authorities). No change in his attitude to others.

I sometimes read those ABIU posts about should I go to A&E and the general consensus seems to be that its only an emergency if you are actually dead already.

Yet the cash strapped NHS is paying for a man who attacked women (this is a different case to the main one) to have two completely unecessary operations while he is incarcerated.

I alwayd wondered if I'd move to the right in my old age ... reading this makes me think I might - except it is the loony right that is supporting and paying for it.

It was later reported he decided to become a man again and was waiting to have his second operation on the NHS.

He wanted to change back again?

Dear God, he's taking the piss.

Unmentioned... name a prison in the female estate that has a high security wing.

The independent has reported it.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rapist-jessica-winfield-martin-ponting-transgender-transition-womens-prison-moved-hmp-bronzefield-a7640706.html

At the end of the article another case is discussed.

There seems to be a trend towards some MtT attacking women ...

Meanwhile actual violence against women is accepted with a shrug.

Fakename CPS Guidelines are that:
"Prosecutors should address suspects according to their presented gender by using the correct gender and pronouns in all documentation". and this is the same in reporting.
Media guidelines are that an offender's transgender status should not be referred to unless it is relevant to the crime cf. Lauren Jeska.

Gender of defendants (and victims) is not always recorded.

fake

As far as I know, if they are legally a woman it gets reported as a female crime. But they have to go through the process and have their sex legally changed.

Fairyflaps

Do you know how offences committed by trans people are recorded? Are the recorded by biological sex or self reported gender identity?

They might have cut his penis off, but if he still has the desire to be sexually violent towards women, he'll use an object of some sort, unfortunately. I really can't understand why, with the NHS in crisis, we're funding this surgery for this person?! Like with children, men need to be told 'no' sometimes

BetsyM00

One might think it is a good thing to cut a rapist's penis off.

There's always a silver lining!

2014 stats: 1 in 6 of the male prison population had been convicted of a sexual offence (it is possibly higher now).

2016 stats: 42% of male prisoners over the age of 50 are convicted of a sexual offence.
Sex offenders can be held in any of 120 prisons. Only 21 prisons offer sex offenders treatment programmes. It is estimated only 1 in 6 convicted sex offenders has access to a treatment programme.
Just think how many treatment programmes could have been funded by £10,000. "Some people falsely believe that taking oestrogen and blocking androgen in males will reduce risk of offending, however this is not necessarily the case".

Compare this with the women's prison estate.
Most women entering prison under sentence (85%) have committed a non-violent offence. (42% entered custody under sentence in 2015 for theft and handling stolen goods).
53% of women in prison reported experiencing emotional, physical or sexual abuse as a child, compared to 27% of men.
46% of women in prison report having suffered a history of domestic abuse.

One might think it is a good thing to cut a rapist's penis off.

Convicted rapists should not be eligible for gender reassignment surgery.

Completely agree.

Convicted rapists should not be eligible for gender reassignment surgery.

Surely raping women and girls with your penis demonstrates clearly that you are a man.
How can it be otherwise?