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I'm not the barista's "my love"

111 replies

therealsquireofwideacre · 20/03/2017 14:04

Does that make me humourless? He was highly indignant to be asked to stop calling me "my love" in every other breath, and to be fair the male customers are all his "mate" apparently.

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dudsville · 20/03/2017 15:47

One of the barrista at my local shop calls me love. I hate her a little bit for it but I bear it as I believe she doesn't mean any harm.

scottishdiem · 20/03/2017 15:45

Meh. We should enforce standardised use of the English language, remove local variances and formalise greetings to:

"Hello, fellow human being".

(I always find "hows it hanging?" an amusing one)

BeyondUser24601 · 20/03/2017 15:42

It depends, it can be okay or it can be patronising.
Considering it bothered you, I'd guess it came across as the second so yanbu (I know this isn't Aibu Grin )

FellOutOfBed2wice · 20/03/2017 15:39

Hmmm. I'm guilty of this. It's a colloquialism. I'm an East Londoner and it's a thing.

Bue · 20/03/2017 15:37

I used to be a bit Hmm about this until I moved somewhere further north and realised it's a regional thing. Really doesn't bother me anymore in most contexts. I know women (seriously feminist women to boot) who call everyone 'love' and 'pet', male or female.

RiverdaleJughead · 20/03/2017 15:33

I call everyone my love, honey, chicken .. because I'm from Yorkshire - I don't mean anything by it and sometimes men find it weird when you call them love (especially if you're a man too-I'm not) so they often get mate.
Get over yourself it's just how we reference people. Would you rather I called you ma'am?

venusinscorpio · 20/03/2017 15:28

Yes and I can contribute what I want in response to them.

gillybeanz · 20/03/2017 15:16

venus

This isn't AIBU though.
Anybody can contribute how they want to, on any thread.

Childrenofthestones · 20/03/2017 15:05

Branleuse said....
"im a feminist and i absolutely do not give a shit about the fact that some people clumsily try to be nice or use pet names.
Now if it was someone in a position of power calling me darlin or my love, then thats got different connotations, but a workman or a barista, theyre just being friendly and you were being rude".

Interesting that you notice that it is often (not exclusively) about the power dynamic between the two people.
My experience is a big part of the offence is about people seeing such familiarity with people they see as below them that winds them up. Having worked in the service industry in the North I have noticed that when using love or mate it is far more often the people that get out of the Audi TT in the car park and not the Ford Fiesta that bristle and take offence by it.

whoputthecatout · 20/03/2017 15:04

In my neck of the woods it's "me duck".

NotCitrus · 20/03/2017 15:04

If it's London, then men use mate to other men seen as equals, and love to women, the elderly, and children. Which is patronising as hell.

If the person is just using it as a figure of speech I ignore it (but often call a man love or petal back, which flummoxes them), but if they clearly are trying to be patronising then I will definitely use the most patronising terms I can think of in exchange. "I'm not your love" never goes well.

ArchNotImpudent · 20/03/2017 14:52

There's a young woman where I work who calls everyone "My lovely" regardless of age, sex or corporate seniority - I find it quite cheering!

Branleuse · 20/03/2017 14:50

im a feminist and i absolutely do not give a shit about the fact that some people clumsily try to be nice or use pet names.
Now if it was someone in a position of power calling me darlin or my love, then thats got different connotations, but a workman or a barista, theyre just being friendly and you were being rude.

EssentialHummus · 20/03/2017 14:49

It depends on context for me. At work there was one particular canteen worker (from a highly patriarchal culture, if it matters) who'd always address me as love or darling while looking me up and down. After a few months of this I said something like "Please don't call me darling. My name is X." For the rest of my time at that company I got an icy "Ma'am" and probably spit in my soup.

RadiatorWatch · 20/03/2017 14:48

I really wouldn't get offended by this. I'd say he was just being friendly and polite.

AssassinatedBeauty · 20/03/2017 14:45

What an odd reason not to agree with feminist principles. Chatting about how people refer to women in the UK doesn't stop you from also knowing, caring about and acting to help women in other parts of the world who are suffering. It's not one or the other.

venusinscorpio · 20/03/2017 14:42

Do you go onto most AIBU threads and say the same, mummabear? Do feel free to go away and read some articles about Yemen.

mummabearfoyrbabybears · 20/03/2017 14:39

This is exactly why, as a woman, I absolutely do not identify as a feminist. The pettiness and self righteousness is just astounding! Maybe, for a little perspective you should read about the starving children in Yemen. Or maybe the children in Vietnam still living with the horrific affects of Agent Orange or the women of Afghanistan who are truly do suffer suppression.

AssassinatedBeauty · 20/03/2017 14:35

My experience is that over a certain age, and not attempting to look attractive, you just get called "Madam" or by your name, or nothing. Which I prefer, tbh.

thatstoast · 20/03/2017 14:34

I think i object to the term barista more than 'my love' but I've never been a coffee drinker.

Truckingalong · 20/03/2017 14:32

I can't bear love and have called people out about it at work on several occasions. I defo get a 🙄 but I couldn't give a stuff!

Sparklingbrook · 20/03/2017 14:30

It's nice to be acknowledged and for people to be polite and pleasant. Better than being ignored or him being rude.

therealsquireofwideacre · 20/03/2017 14:29

Well I'm certainly not his love any more! Grin okay, i accept I've got my grumpy head on today!

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Bluntness100 · 20/03/2017 14:28

This doesn't really bother me, as I understand it's just a friendly way of addressing people. I don't read anything into it.

I don't do it myself, but i live just outside London and whenever I have workmen in the house ( we've been renovating) I get called everything from doll to darlin.

Things like me " here's some coffees for you" them " thanks doll" .

Shrugs.

Sparklingbrook · 20/03/2017 14:26

I can't get worked up about it either. I bet he was Hmm.