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Maajid Nawaz LBC- feminists are abandoning ethnic minority women and their causes for first world problems

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crystalgall · 12/03/2017 14:35

Anyone listening?

He cites a story about a 17tr old black Muslim girl who was forced into an apology by Muslim fundentalist men online for being filmed dancing in the streets (twerking) while wearing a hijab.

He suggests that no feminist outlet commented on the story and that in general feminists are focusing on first world issues (he mentions the transgender issue and then Emma Watsons boobs and the academic who made a joke and was then fired? I don't know that story) and not engaging in supporting ethnic minority women in this country enough.

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PlectrumElectrum · 12/03/2017 15:29

Lass, the OP states he's commenting on his own radio show on LBC. Unless they print & publish transcripts as he broadcasts, I doubt you'll find the published comments you seem to think is the important part of this thread. And I'm with countess on this too.

Bundesliga · 12/03/2017 15:26

I'm sorry but why in hell should he "call feminists out" for their lack of commentary on anything? I genuinely don't understand.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/03/2017 15:23

I don't subscribe to any social media outlets but has this story been commented on by any feminist websites or feminist bloggers in the UK?

If not, then he does rather have a point (assuming he did actually criticise feminists for their lack of response- I can't find it)

BigDeskBob · 12/03/2017 15:20

I've just realised I'm repeating thecountess, but far less articulately.

BigDeskBob · 12/03/2017 15:18

I doubt that he was really outraged by this, otherwise he would be too busy telling Muslim men why they were wrong to have any time to criticise feminism. Its just him using this woman to tell other women their concerns are unimportant and therefore they should shut up.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/03/2017 15:10

I can't find any links where he said what he is alleged to have said on the OP.

I haven't found much reporting of it at all apart from the Mail, the Record and Breitbart and Nawaz's own site.

Birmingham Muslim Apologises for ‘Twerking’ After Death Threats
www.google.co.uk/amp/www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/07/birmingham-muslim-apologises-twerking-death-threats/amp/

Muslim teenager bombarded with death threats and abuse after she was filmed twerking in hijab - Daily Record
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/muslim-teenager-bombarded-death-threats-9984598

dailymail.co.uk
www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4290042/amp/Woman-receives-death-threats-twerks-hijab.html
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I do not agree, not unsurprisingly, with the view that not being a woman disbars a person commenting on feminism.

Bundesliga · 12/03/2017 15:01

FFS. What everyone else already said.

Lesson #1 in how to be a good ally: don't tell the women they are "doing it wrong"

Fuck off with your directives to feminists.

BigDeskBob · 12/03/2017 14:59

yy to "And taking a story about a Muslim woman being treated badly by Muslim men and turning it into a story about feminists being crap stinks of patriarchy to me."

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/03/2017 14:57

And taking a story about a Muslim woman being treated badly by Muslim men and turning it into a story about feminists being crap stinks of patriarchy to me.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/03/2017 14:55

If he wants to use his position to bring more attention to issues affecting ethnic minority women, that's great. Feminists of all ethnicities will applaud and support him.
What he doesn't get to do is to use it as an opportunity to demonstrate his manly superiority over those silly women and show us how he can do feminism better than us - he needs to look at the politics around his doing that.

I am entirely prepared to have my feminism critiqued by other women. But not by men who are oblivious to the privilege with which they speak.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/03/2017 14:49

He is a man. He doesn't get to tell women how to do feminism.

PlectrumElectrum · 12/03/2017 14:43

Is there a link to the original story? I've not heard of it, and haven't come across it before.

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