Maajid Nawaz LBC- feminists are abandoning ethnic minority women and their causes for first world problems

But what is it that you are questioning lass? The lack of feminist moderation on social media?

I am not particularly questioning anything beyond the fact this man, discussed a rather frightening incident, which apparently has gone under the radar , and apparently, in doing so made a comment about mainstream feminism ignoring these issues, and the main subject of this thread has been criticism of him- not the incident he criticised.

There are countless threads on here about every mad utterance from transactivists but this appalling incident in Manchester wasn't picked up on by any of the feminist cheer leaders.

I do find the OP's subsequent criticism of him that his reaction was OTT very puzzling.

Agreed OP. Most feminists are too scared to criticise Islamists, and that coerced apology was shocking.
As Maryam Namaze says about the veil - Don't tell me that woman chose to wear it, tell me what is right.

But what is it that you are questioning lass? The lack of feminist moderation on social media?

It would not be dissimilar to me, a white woman, telling black activists they are doing it wrong and tasking them with sorting out the problems that affect me.

*If he wants to use his position to bring more attention to issues affecting ethnic minority women, that's great. Feminists of all ethnicities will applaud and support him.
What he doesn't get to do is to use it as an opportunity to demonstrate his manly superiority over those silly women and show us how he can do feminism better than us - he needs to look at the politics around his doing that.

I am entirely prepared to have my feminism critiqued by other women. But not by men who are oblivious to the privilege with which they speak.

One of the key messages I took home from yesterday's feminist event in Cheltenham was Maryam Namazie telling us that women must show solidarity across race and culture. We should not be deterred from speaking out on FGM and many other issues for fear of being accused of "white feminism". She said that "white feminism" was a tag used to divide women and to silence us.

The first thought that came to my mind was that the reason he didn't criticise the abusive muslim men was because he would be accused of racism and Islamaphobia

He did on Facebook and he was accused of that.

Feminism is a political movement- he has as much right as I have to question it.

I agree with him as well and his outrage at her forced apology.

However he has zero remit to address white feminists and their "failed" agenda (whom ever they may be).

He called the online apology an Islamic inquisition and the first Of its kind in the U.K. He called it chilling and that it freezes the blood

It was all a bit OTT tbh

Really? That is your reaction? I agree with him. I think it is absolutely outrageous this girl was forced to apologise.

What outrage? You are exaggerating. I asked if any one had seen any feminist commentators making a comment on this ? As mentioned I don't subscribe to any social media- I expect that is unusual on MN so I hadn't seen it so I would have missed it.

Apparently no one has seen any feminist commentator writing about it. I personally find it a surprising given the amount of feminist blogging and v blogging which is made on trans issues. It seems surprising that this event, with a million YouTube views and reports on mainstream media, still didn't provoke any feminist commentator to pen anything. Goodness knows there are 100s probably 1000s of MNetters who don't read the Mail but still post links to articles which offend them.

The majority of posts on this thread have been criticising him. Talk about shooting the messenger.

We still don't know what exactly he is supposed to have said that is critical of feminism. We do know that he was very critical of the men and other Muslim men who attacked her; he often is critical of Muslim men.

LassWiTheDelicateAir People cant comment on things they havent seen. Your outrage at people posting here is misplaced.

I doubt that he was really outraged by this, otherwise he would be too busy telling Muslim men why they were wrong

I think you will find he spends quite a lot of time telling Muslim men they are wrong.

I dont subscribe to Breitbart or the Mail. Until there is a Feminist Central to report this kind of thing I cant see how we are responsible for not responding to it

Who is "we" ? I asked if any commentator who defines herself as a feminist had commented on it?

It seems to have had millions of views on YouTube before it was pulled yet seems never to have generated no comments by feminist commentators beyond those who might be agreeing with him on his Facebook page?

The first thought that came to my mind was that the reason he didn't criticise the abusive muslim men was because he would be accused of racism and Islamaphobia.

There are loads of comments standing up for her in the newspaper comments and his Facebook page. I'm sure some are from feminists.

What BigDeskBob said.
I dont subscribe to Breitbart or the Mail. Until there is a Feminist Central to report this kind of thing I cant see how we are responsible for not responding to it.

Out of interest, does anyone know how Maajid is fighting this issue?

Here is the link to his Facebook page.

m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1311677082232887&id=135775283156412

It wasn't well reported.

Any criticism of abusive Muslim men will automatically be 'called out' as

a) racist
b) anti-Islamic

Intersectional Feminism plus unwillingness to offend have combined to silence any dissent.

I see no one on here has actually said anything beyond the how dare this man speak out.

And if he said what he is reported to have said in the original OP then exactly right how dare he.

Lass, the OP states he's commenting on his own radio show on LBC. Unless they print & publish transcripts as he broadcasts

LBC publishes transcripts. The most recent one I found by him was about failure to integrate.

That's the problem with not having a "head of feminism" - there's no one to update the official list of all the shit men to to women blog

Straw man. Never said anything of the sort. Has there been anything said about this by any feminist commentator?.

I see no one on here has actually said anything beyond the how dare this man speak out.

Out of interest, does anyone know how Maajid is fighting this issue?

I'm sorry but why in hell should he "call feminists out" for their lack of commentary on anything? I genuinely don't understand

Well first of all who are you quoting with "call feminists out"? I did not say that.

Secondly I have not so far found anything where he has actually criticised feminists beyond what the OP alleges he said. He has criticised his own community for what that happened.

Thirdly has any feminist commentator made any comment on this incident?

That's the problem with not having a "head of feminism" - there's no one to update the official list of all the shit men to to women blog.