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Gender Critical MNers Gathering Together On Twitter.

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OverthinkingSpartacus · 10/03/2017 19:43

Creating this thread for those who want to follow/share/connect/engage with other gender critical MNers on Twitter after the suggestion was made on this thread to group together there to raise awareness of our concerns around the possibility of gender self identity replacing gender reassignment in the uk and trans ideology etc.

If you'd like to take part then please Pm me your Twitter name, over the weekend I will compile a list of MNers Twitter names and PM them back out to everyone on Monday. As it'll be an ongoing thing, I will add other Twitter handles that are sent after Monday and send updated lists via PM. Only your Twitter name will be given to other MNers and I won't share your MN username alongside your Twitter account with anyone.

If you know of any other public Twitter profiles that are openly gender critical such as Magdelan Burns, please feel free to share their Twitter names too and I shall add to the list.

Before you sign up for Twitter you will need an email or phone number for verification.
Understandably, many don't feel safe linking personal phone number or personal emails to gender critical posts so it might be best to create a separate email address for social media sites etc where you want to speak about concerns raised in the other threads. Gmail, outlook, yahoo are three sites off the top of my head that provide free web based email accounts.

When you click on sign up in Twitter it will give the option of signing up with a mobile number as a default but if you scroll down a little, there's an option to "use email instead"

Following this link should take you to the sign up page with the email option already selected.

If you are worried about your IP address being used to locate you, you can use VPN (Virtual Private Network) software/services that camouflage your actual IP and make it look as if you are accessing the Internet from elsewhere. I use an Android app called VPN master which can be downloaded from google play and once installed, it's just a case of opening app and and switching it on and accessing Internet as usual. You can have the VPN running all the time but it can drain battery so I open app and turn back off after using. There should be similar apps for iOS and Windows, I will link them in later post if I get time.

I can create a bunch of email and Twitter accounts for people if they are struggling, but wont be able to do it until Monday. I'll be less active online over the weekend but wanted to get the thread up so that people can start PMing their Twitter names.

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NewbieSpartacus · 09/04/2017 18:46

Is there still some interest in trying this? I'm having a go but with my little handful of followers my tweets are like tumbleweed. Is there a longer list of members available yet?

WobblyLegs5 · 31/03/2017 14:36

India willoby (sp) article all over twitter. Might need some mn perspective tweets

BiscuitMillionaire · 25/03/2017 22:07

Thanks.

WoodPigeonInFlight · 24/03/2017 17:45

Page 2 of this thread Biscuit

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2877199-Gender-Critical-Reference-Thread?pg=2&order=

BiscuitMillionaire · 24/03/2017 17:41

Hello. Does anyone have a link to any research on connection between autism and transgender? TIA

WoodPigeonInFlight · 24/03/2017 17:38

Can I make a suggestion? I have been on Twitter but have not yet managed to get on or get hold of the MN list which is a bit frustrating as although I think I am following quite a few MNers, almost no-one is following me so I am mostly tweeting/retweeting to myself Grin

Could we all use a simple # for a week or two so that we can all find one another with a quick search? How about #FemChat? This would save having to pm etc and anyone new to Twitter could just search and find us.

Also, Usui I really like your list of questions on your meeting with your MP thread. I think they really sum up some of the key issues and will get people thinking.

How about using them as a basis for weekly themes? (Perhaps daily too much and not long enough for an effect).

So week one q2, week three q4 etc. I think perhaps q1 needs to go later on as it is a bit more tangential.

Then for each week/question we can all tweet the question or part of it including links to relevant articles etc connected to the question. This doesn't stop people tweeting other stuff but would just give us a framework and a bit of structure as I don't know anyone else but I find it hard to know where to start.

Does anyone think this is worth doing?

WoodPigeonInFlight · 24/03/2017 09:39

I am on Twitter but haven't managed to get hold of the list of MN Twitter names yet. Can anyone pm it to me?

Usui101 · 23/03/2017 22:15

Hi Newbie many on twitter from what I can see are retweeting stories/articles/blogs from various sources, at present there is not a specific theme but rather tweets are in response to specific articles for example the article about the MTT weighlighter taking a medal ahead of a female athlete has attracted a lot of attention, likewise with stories such as Ian Huntley etc. It seems to be reactive as opposed to proactive - I think you actually raise a really good point that perhaps a concerted effort on individual issues would be a great way forward.

NewbieSpartacus · 23/03/2017 17:59

I'm new here (have PMd you my twitter Overthinking) - are you still mass tweeting one particular thing each day?

Thisisouting · 20/03/2017 15:28

He blocked me before I could follow the full thread but there were some posts about little Jonny in a dress or something.

If your reading though I didn't reply because it was an obviously goady question.

Usui101 · 20/03/2017 14:32

Please check out this tweet - it is horrifying that minors are being operated on: twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/843829832169537537

Please also check out another tweet about how E4 are screening subliminal gender images ie blue background for boys and pink backgrounds for girls in microsecond shots:
twitter.com/Middle_ground/status/843825196989583364

WrongTrouser · 20/03/2017 09:19

Transfeminine, non-binary, transgender... a minority within a minority within a minority but confused by a woman using a male philosopher's name as a user name Grin

WobblyLegs5 · 20/03/2017 09:16

& hearts pure & open yuk! Man's idea of what a woman should be

WoodPigeonInFlight · 20/03/2017 09:11

I'm tweeting about the Gender Identity Bill using #21CSuffragette and #SexNotGender.

WobblyLegs5 · 20/03/2017 09:05

It's so badly written I cringed

The oh not all transwomen are criminals point- well no, but at same rates as males and we don't want mixed sex prisions or refuges either. The writter only commented on toilet spaces, no mention of how the law effects prisions/refuges/hospitals/children's showers in school etc

Diminishing us all to toddler mummies & referring to us as a 'brigade'. Sounds like someone who is too familiar with mn insults nor someone who just popped in. Complementing feminIst threads, like adults need positive feedback, to seem reasonable just makes them more unreasonable, no one needs you to decide what's a good feminist discussion & what's not.

The only point vaguely worth anything is about the transman in female toilets, because I wounder what these females want in regard to female spaces- clearly they don't want the 60%rape rate they report in male prisions in us- but otherwuse what's their opinion & how do we find out? If a transman needs to access a dv refuge or psych hospital do they want to be in with females, males or a seperate space (mixed or gender neutral or anything else) same goes for public toilets showers and the like, and do these females want the choice of female or male for pre op smears etc?. I've only ever heard opinions from transwomen, or men who dress as women. But ofcourse transmen are women too & their input in missing in these discussions. Anyone have any links? Rl sources?

jellyfrizz · 20/03/2017 08:42

Mumsnet is not some piddly little blog. It has millions and millions of unique users every month.

Yes. Blogger Realises Pissing Off Mumsnet Readers Boosts Hits.

jellyfrizz · 20/03/2017 08:41

Yes. Blogger Realises Pissing Off Mumsnet Readers Boosts Hits.

tigerdriverII · 20/03/2017 08:41

I've just asked Andie on Twitter if she can link to the thread she's moaning about.

I wonder what she'll say?

tigerdriverII · 20/03/2017 08:35

QuentinSummers

I did rather think it was that. But then thought I'd missed the point. If indeed there was one!

#irony

Datun · 20/03/2017 08:05

Just asked a bunch of Mumsnet TERFs what they'd do if their son/daughter turned out to be trans. Not. One. Single. Response. Funny that, eh?

Not sure where this was posted?

It wasn't. Apart from anything else we've had several parents of trans children state they massively appreciate our support. And I've never yet seen a mumsnetter refuse to answer any question, ever. Quite the contrary!

I have a strong suspicion that the author of that blog is strangeadventure from the Jeska thread.

I'm wondering if our recent Twitter activity is drawing fire.

Mumsnet is not some piddly little blog. It has millions and millions of unique users every month.

That blogger's article degenerated very quickly - 'mumsnetters are angry, bitter, twisted trolls'.

Angry, yes. Also, intelligent, informed, articulate, rational and courteous.

The more a blogger like that draws attention to mumsnet, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

QuentinSummers · 20/03/2017 07:42

Cross the commenter has "appropriated" a male name I thought. Which rather proves John's point. It doesn't matter what I'm called, I'm still a woman.

jellyfrizz · 20/03/2017 07:41

From Andie's Twitter feed (linked at bottom of page) 8hrs ago:

Just asked a bunch of Mumsnet TERFs what they'd do if their son/daughter turned out to be trans. Not. One. Single. Response. Funny that, eh?

Not sure where this was posted?

tigerdriverII · 20/03/2017 07:22

Yes, the comment was excellent although I don't understand Andie's response : "…writes John."

chanceofrain · 20/03/2017 07:12

Ughhh that blog post made my skin crawl, Datun. We should all go back to discussing how to get little Jimmy to eat his veggies.

The comment at the end was brilliant though - succinct and spot on.

DameDeDoubtance · 20/03/2017 07:05

Just coming on to post that Datun. Where do you start? How do you convince someone that being feminine doesn't make you female, it just makes you feminine. Nothing wrong with that, we need more men to say fuck this for a game of soldiers I fancy wearing a dress today, open up what it is to be a man.