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Misgendered trans people doth protest too much

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joystir59 · 10/03/2017 09:38

Just that really- as a short grey haired lesbian I sometimes get called sir. Does it send me screaming abuse at the perpetrator as if they have committed a major crime and I am mortally offended? Nope. Because I know what I am. So its water off a lesbian's back. Trans people scream blue murder because basically they are living a lie and cant stand being reminded of what they really are- men pretending to be women. What do others think?

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joystir59 · 10/03/2017 10:00

CoolJAzz My point is that being misgendered is only painful because it hits on the truth for the person being misgendered. If I am misgendered I couldn't care less because I am a woman, always will be and being called male isn't a big deal- it doesn't threaten my sense of self; but when a MTT trans person is called male (which is what they are and have been justly recognised as) they cant stand it because it cuts to the painful truth, which they are trying to avoid/evade.

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FishInAWetSuitAndFlippers · 10/03/2017 09:59

I think you have a very simplistic view.

You are comfortable with who you are so it doesn't matter to you.

A person who is genuinely struggling with their emotions, body, how the world perceives them etc won't be quite so self assured and it can be very painful for them (of course there are some people who just like attention and complaining too).

There is a lot to debate on the whole transgender issue, there are a lot of wrongs that need to be made right, I, personally, have no issue with calling someone by their preferred pronoun out of basic human decency really. Other things are much higher up on the agenda for me.

CoolJazz · 10/03/2017 09:50

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Datun · 10/03/2017 09:48

Actually, I do think it goes right to the very heart of their pain. I don't think it's an act to garner sympathy, I think the reaction is genuine.

Having said that, if misgendering someone can send them into a tizzy of suicidal frenzy, then they need immediate psychiatric treatment.

It is remarkable how other people have simply accepted that calling someone by the wrong pronoun is absolutely heinous without wondering why.

It's one thing to be polite and kind, which we will all do. But the flipside is not bad manners and and unkindness, it's 'literal violence'.

A huge overreaction from a narcissistic personality and an incredible fragile sense of self. I can be kind, yes but if I don't want to be kind, it doesn't mean I'm actually killing you.

Actual reality vs your reality.