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The murder of Bethany Hill

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Bragadocia · 03/03/2017 11:29

In the Commons yesterday, Jess Phillips read a list of women murdered by men in the past year. According to Hansard, Bethany Hill did not appear on this year's list, not last year's (her death was on 3 February 2016, the conviction of her killers was January 2017).

Bethany was murdered by a man and transwoman. Why has Bethany's death not been acknowledged?

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IndominusRex · 03/03/2017 14:45

Ah I hope this was the case.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/03/2017 14:40

What Norma said.
It's looking like Bethany may not have been on the list at the point when Jess or her aides accessed it, as her name was added recently rather than at the time.

KickAssAngel · 03/03/2017 14:36

place marking

Mrsmorton · 03/03/2017 14:35

Total place mark. I follow Jess Philips on twitter. She does good things so I'm another one who will be hugely disappointed if it's deliberate.

Wasn't there a lady killed recently by her son? And they never released her name as her son was 17 and his anonymity protected? That just makes me so angry.

ageingrunner · 03/03/2017 14:35

I think we may follow each other Smile

Datun · 03/03/2017 14:35

IndominusRex

Can you tell Karen Ingala Smith, too?

NormaStanleyFletcher · 03/03/2017 14:34

It sounds like this was just an issue of timing. Bethany didn't get added until recently, and only new people within the last 12 months were read out.

If that makes sense.

ageingrunner · 03/03/2017 14:32

Oh good I wonder if you'll get a reply?

IndominusRex · 03/03/2017 14:30

I just have.

ageingrunner · 03/03/2017 14:23

I wonder if anyone has asked Jess Phillips on twitter?

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 03/03/2017 14:20

I don't understand why her name was removed - surely the point is to acknowledge and remember the women murdered by men. Even if you believed transwomen are women, then Bethany Hill was still murdered by a man as both Jack and "Kayleigh" murdered her.

AskBasil · 03/03/2017 14:17

Place marking

Datun · 03/03/2017 14:07

I wonder if Karen Ingala Smith knows. Isn't she the one who compiles the list by trawling through social media and newspapers?

FlaviaAlbia · 03/03/2017 13:57

If that was deliberate, that's horrific.

Placemarking to hear Jess' response.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 03/03/2017 13:42

Unlikely to be Jess Philips, more likely an aide as said.

thecraftyfox · 03/03/2017 13:28

TheCountess that would mean that Jess's aide had removed it wouldn't it. Who else would prepare her speeches? It can't be subjudice as the trial was in January and they were both found guilty.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 03/03/2017 13:15

Jess Phillips does do really good work. I'll be sorely disappointed if this turns out to be the case.

3 women a week die at the hands of men in the UK. Men, or, trans-women.

Three. Women. A. Week.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/03/2017 13:15

In memory of Bethany Hill. Flowers

NormaStanleyFletcher · 03/03/2017 13:01

This is just too sad and shocking.

GwenStaceyRocks · 03/03/2017 12:54

I will be interested to see Jess' response to this.
RIP Bethany Hill. Flowers

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Bragadocia · 03/03/2017 12:49

What I mean is, the video of the speech being delivered reflects Hansard, in going from Geraldine Newman to Caroline Andrews.

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Bragadocia · 03/03/2017 12:43

I checked the video of 2016.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/03/2017 12:35

Another possibility is that she was deliberately removed from the list but not by Jess Phillips. And another is that Hansard made an error.

BarrackerBarma · 03/03/2017 12:33

I completely agree. We need to find out what happened.

It's possible that the omission of the only uk woman murdered by a transwoman in 2016 was a completely unhappy coincidence despite the list being read in the same chronological order that it is compiled.
also its possible that she was also accidentally omitted from this year's list too as a correction to that oversight.

An incredibly unhappy coincidence I'd say.

I do hope this is the case though.

Sporadicus · 03/03/2017 12:31

My god.