Has anyone encountered this FB group?

bambambini I agree trans is the new punk (or goth wtv) and they just get sooo much special attention.

Can anyone recommend a good Facebook group for Rad Fems?

Because I'm wondering how often people who spout that kind of utter bollocks are still at university and happy to theorize, or at least very young and inexperienced.

Working with fairly young women it is them that say "oh I could never leave my children in childcare". Not the ones that, you know, actually have children.

bamb

I too feel uncomfortable about women having a downer on their womanhood.

Despite knowing that women have been oppressed because of their biology and that very biology can be painful, difficult and sometimes fatal, I still like being one.

And for all the advantages that men may get as a class, leading to entitlement, when I talk in real life to my girlfriends, or come on here and see a bunch of other women talking, I really wouldn't have it any other way. I'm proud to be a woman.

Because it's out there and trending. I'm sure a lot of these kids would just have been goths and emos in the past.

I just read that link bambamini, I had to laugh at the protests about putting people in boxes.

Transman, transwoman, cisman, ciswoman, non-binary etc. All those lables! Why can't people just act how they like without having to label themselves as something else?
You don't need to call yourself non-binary, just be a person with short hair and lumberjack shirts today and skirts tomorrow (or whatever your idea of non-binary is), be a man who wears dresses and make up. Why would you feel the need to stick a label on yourself and put yourself into a box like that?

But the organs aren't female. That's just an inaccurate and crude out of date way of looking at biology. So they say.

Even within the trans ideology,

Female = Sex
Woman = Gender

right? Because even transmen might have Ovarian Cancer, Period pains, etc etc. How do you qualify for medical treatment for female organs without admitting their existence?

Just sad that gitls/young women seem to look down on being femsle thst much that they'd rather label themselves non binary. One young woman insisting there was nothing female about her. I didn't get the impression she had dysphoria or anything - just a disgust almost at being female. Strange.

PCOS is intersex!! Fuck that shit. I have PCO, and am a woman due to, you know, being a female with a female reproductive system and XX chromosomes.

I have had 3 children, have breastfed, have had a form of cancer that it is only possible to get if you are female, ffs - I have steam pouring out of every one of my perfect female orifices.

Or (thought of a third one - probably more relevant here) - they attach different/more meaning to a word than I would - eg. I think 'woman' means adult, human, female, but they add a lot more baggage around how that means you'll act, what you wear etc.

That's the fault of people conflating sex and gender though - something that the TAs enthusiastically encourage.

I live away from the UK, and my kids go to an international school, and I have to echo that yes, the American kids/parents tend to be more boxed into their gender norms than some other nationalities (along with the South Africans, and in some ways Eastern Europeans) - although obviously that's a huge generalisation based on a relatively small sample of people who aren't even in their home country, and without fail, the kids are all still lovely, and the parents pleasant to speak to - albeit sometimes I avoid some subjects with some parents, and my kids sometimes have to defend their plans to wear pink fairy wings or heart socks or whatever to kids who didn't realise they could.

I've lived a lot of places though, and it's all swings and roundabouts in day to day life. I think that the denial of reality is an internet phenomenon that crosses national boundaries though - and these people declaring sex to be a social construct are either doing it to further their own ends (Riley) or because they're desperately trying to do the right thing and haven't engaged their brain on the matter.

As a New Zealander, I find that Americans are generally so much more sexist and affected (in manner,) than Brits. I was overjoyed to come across Mumsnet - you all are much more down to earth, sharp-witted, and properly feminist (not libfem!) than the posters on the average American mum's group/site.
They seem chock full of internalised misogyny

Good grief. I'm going to have to stop reading those kind of posts before I cause myself a serious brain injury from banging my head against a wall. PCOS as intersex. I'm pretty sure most of mainstream medicine would disagree with that. It has more in common with type 2 diabetes as a metabolic disorder rather than intersex. No wonder I spend so much of my time explaining to young women that sex without contraception usually leads to a baby if this is the shit they come up with. I think we need a FFS WTF emoji.

Just because people call themselves feminists doesn't mean they are. Liberal feminists tend to be fairly uncritical about things like barbies whereas radical feminists would have a more critical perspective.

It was just an example of people on a pro trans/anti terf fb Page explaining the science behind trans ideology. Probably deleted as the folk were identifyable - fair enough.

I saw the comments before they got deleted but couldn't really make head nor tail of what the gist was tbh

Oh I see. But making people aware of hate speech isn't the same thing as actually promoting hate speech... is it?

Pcos is a condition which only occurs in women. Anyone who says otherwise can fottfsofawtgtfosm. Which is not the sort of thing I often say.

I linked to some FB pages that were slamming Terfs ans Swerfs - probably deleted for the unpleassnt hate speech. Fsir enough.

Why the deletions?

Thank you, Bambambini. Much appreciated

The second word in polycystic ovaries is ovaries ffs!

I just read that polycystic thing

What da fuk?

Omg polycystic ovaries does not mean you're intersex, jeebus, slams head on desk