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Female abusers

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iremembericod · 19/02/2017 10:00

I've been the victim of male violence and abuse many times in my life and this is not about saying that doesn't happen. I know that most violence is from men.

What has been made me challenge some of my thinking around the 'male abuser' narrative that I've held for so long (backed up by stats etc) is that yes, females do not abuse like men (with violence) but females abuse in a way that is actually very rarely violating our current laws.

The abuse I have had first hand experience of is the systematic emotional abuse of children and (most often) ex partners. This is berating, manipulating, poisoning, frightening, controlling...everything you read about on the Stately Homes threads. I wonder about the numbers on this because I'm starting to think that the female form of abuse is just as prevalent as the male form of abuse and that has really challenged my world view and although there are some laws, the reality is it is nigh on impossible to get a conviction for emotional abuse.

This abuse is simply not punished by the law and despite it being extremely harmful causing lifelong mental health issues for its victims, there is very little that people can do if they have a family member who is dishing out the female form of abuse.

I'd be really interested to hear what others think, I realise that the argument will go that 2 women a week die at the hands of men in the U.K., and it's not to discount that in any way, I'm just interested that there is this underground, non-punishable form of abuse that is going on by females that might not directly kill people, but certainly lines people up for a difficult life.

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LevantineHummus · 19/02/2017 13:15

My "D"M was emotionally abusive with threats of physical violence to back it up. It reduced as we got older.

Now it would just be emotional abuse, but she's NC with me because I told her she did things to me that resulted in me being diagnosed with( C)PTSD.

I agree it's very common.

I also think that many people who are emotionally abusive - not all obviously - genuinely have no idea that they are. Police can't be called because someone, for the millionth time, is making you feel like you're crazy and with no visible signs of damage what can they do?

I think it's something that needs to be tackled by awareness campaigns and social work/psychological interventions in the first instance. Police would come much later - if we're looking at eradicating it. Being emotionally abusing isn't actually socially unacceptable, it's just kind of ignored (apart from on here!).

iremembericod · 19/02/2017 12:52

I'm interested in how men and women conduct their abuse I guess. My anectodal and personal experience is that men who emotionally abuse underpin it with either the threat of or actual physical violence, but women don't do that and their emotional abuse is something else - I can't quite put it into words!

Social services are not interested in emotional abuse, certainly in this area anyway. They are only looking at physical and sexual abuse / neglect.

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MissHemsworth · 19/02/2017 10:58

It's emotional abuse & it can be quite hard to prove, whether it's a man or a woman doing it. It can unfortunately have devastating effects, like as you say lifelong MH problems. I assume that it goes unpunished with just as many men as it does women? I also wonder if men & women who carry out EA are equally likely to be abusive in other areas? Are there even laws against EA? I don't know! Can you divorce somebody on the grounds of EA?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 19/02/2017 10:39

I agree with you OP

But dame is quite right

DameDeDoubtance · 19/02/2017 10:07

but men abuse like that too, it's emotional abuse.

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