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Transgender doll

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Bragadocia · 17/02/2017 19:15

Doll has been assigned transgender at construction. Has anyone asked the doll how it chooses to identify? I think not.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/17/worlds-first-transgender-doll-to-be-unveiled-at-new-york-toy-fair

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ClaudiaApfelstrudel · 28/03/2017 20:59

I don't really recall playing with dolls ever... but that was probably because I didn't have any. Most of my childhood was spent reciting birthdays and writing lists of various things in my notebooks

BenLinusatemyhomework · 28/03/2017 18:07

Well Elsa (who is apparently a lesbian, if you think that the definition of lesbian is any women that doesn't show overt interest in men )is currently stuck head first in a flower bed. So maybe I have a homophobe on my hands too - saints preserve us!

OlennasWimple · 28/03/2017 16:54

When I was about 7 I stopped calling one of my teddies by its previous male name and gave it a new female name (which it still bears 30-odd years later). Did I unwittingly commit actual violence by forcing a new gender identity on it?

VestalVirgin · 28/03/2017 16:16

It will thusly, stay permanently naked and frizzed of hair until she decides to bury it in the garden (if the fate of her other dolls is anything to go by).

Transphobic violence!
(nevermind that her other dolls were cis. Cis women don't count, obviously)

ClaudiaApfelstrudel · 28/03/2017 16:16

Hopefully I won't sound too crass but this doll seems to me to be a sales gimmick, like most things in life

BenLinusatemyhomework · 28/03/2017 16:07

It better identify as a naturist with crap hair before I shell out £75 for it as my daughter will have it's clothes off and giving it a bath before you can say genderqueer Demi boy. It will thusly, stay permanently naked and frizzed of hair until she decides to bury it in the garden (if the fate of her other dolls is anything to go by).

FrancisCrawford · 28/03/2017 15:59

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ahamsternest · 28/03/2017 15:53

Does it have a penis?

VestalVirgin · 28/03/2017 15:42

You know, thinking about it, almost all my dolls were intersex. They just had a peehole, if that, and no genitals whatsoever. Could have been babies of either sex with mutilated genitals, the poor darlings.
There was only one baby boy. Whom I might have dressed in the flowery dresses of my other dolls sometimes.

Clearly, I was a very inclusive child and very ahead of my time ... well, except most children likely did the same and owned the very same kind of doll.

The theory that Barbie is trans makes so much sense - I mean, even at six years old, I knew that real women didn't look like that. With lots of surgery, on the other hand ...

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TheGaleanthropist · 25/03/2017 02:24

Does this mean Ken and Action Man were just asexual and ahead of their time? That Barbie had top surgery and was only half way through bottom surgery? What was Tiny Tears?

OlennasWimple · 25/03/2017 02:22
FeedMeAndTellMeImPretty · 25/03/2017 00:51

I identify as a Hatchimal, so glad to see I will also be represented at the New York toy fair.

nocoolnamesleft · 24/03/2017 23:39

I preferred action men to dolls, as they came with better accessories. And yet I'm a woman.

ChocChocPorridge · 20/03/2017 20:39

I never liked dolls, DS1 never liked any kind of humanoid toy, DS2 has put to bed, or taken to bed to snuggle, everything from his brothers cars, to his Bing doll, to boxing gloves and a metal detector and often carries some doll or other around and has it eat food with him and chats to it.

Which genders are we all again? Fuck that. We're all just us, with our own interests, and those interests have nothing to do with what we have in our pants.

DJBaggySmalls · 20/03/2017 15:05

Performance playing? The definition of play is that its un-selfconscious.

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HeyRoly · 18/02/2017 14:01

Jazz Jennings played with dolls when he was a little boy to prove he was a girl? I can't believe such a reductive argument is even allowed to exist unchallenged, let alone lead to the existence of a "transgender" doll. Are children even supposed to be able to comprehend that this doll "was a boy but now identifies as a girl"? Or is this doll, considering the eye watering price tag, intended for transwomen to buy for themselves?

My five year old DD doesn't care for dolls and never has. Does that mean she isn't a girl?

ForeverLivingMyArse · 18/02/2017 10:34

I don't get it.

VestalVirgin · 18/02/2017 10:31

Actually Terfinator I looked at it and thought they had captured that not quite right look to a T. She doesn't quite pass.

I thought that, too, but is that intentional, or is it just a badly made doll?
It seems unlikely to me that they did that on purpose.

CharlieSierra · 17/02/2017 21:58

Actually Terfinator I looked at it and thought they had captured that not quite right look to a T. She doesn't quite pass.

TheHouseOfIllRepute · 17/02/2017 21:54

Will it be anatomically correct Halo

Cooroo · 17/02/2017 21:51

Yes the quote about playing with dolls proving you are a girl bothered me. My DD never did, but is now 20 and hasn't mentioned that she is actually a boy. Why on earth can't boys play with dolls?? Wear dresses?

RhinestoneCowgirl · 17/02/2017 21:32

folks??? Dolls obv

RhinestoneCowgirl · 17/02/2017 21:31

My DD doesn't seem to play with folks, is she trying to tell me something about which gender she identifies with Hmm