BuzzFeed article on the oppressive roots of lesbianism

@ Pacifist
It's because most transgendered people are men and men are used to telling women what to do and what to think or we get beaten. Can you ever imagine them pulling this shit with a bunch of men? Course not, they would get a good kicking that's why. That's why transmen are quiet in comparison, they know that it would be unsafe for them to behave towards men as transwomen behave towards women.

I think the more people are exposed to the lunacy of the cotton ceiling and "I am a real woman despite fathering 7 kids", that more people are going to question what transgenderism really is. The thing is most people don't give a shit if Mark puts on a dress and calls himself Maria, I certainly don't BUT I will not be told that I have to put feelings over objective scientific facts. Transwomen should not be allowed into female spaces such as shelters, changing rooms, thay need to learn that if they want to be part of female society then they have to accept their limitations and realise that there are female experiences and spaces where , as biological males, they are not welcome. They have to play by OUR rules and certainly not be telling women what to accept.

As long as there is breath in my body I will never ever accept Transwomen as female or as women in the way that I am a woman i.e. adult human female. If that makes me a TERF then that is a badge I will wear proudly. I'm sick of this trans shit.

God, yes, this. I'm just afraid that I'm going to end up being the old woman who hangs onto her offensive beliefs because 'that's how things were in my day', like my FIL talking about 'niggers'. Not that I think it's remotely comparable, you understand, but it feels like things could go that way.

Ummm is there any particular reason lesbians are singled out for this? Nobody seems to challenging my sexual preferences as a straight male. I don't get how you can get all up in arms about a lesbian's preferences, but absolutely no-one elses. It's philisophically inconsistent.

As long as there is breath in my body I will never ever accept Transwomen as female or as women in the way that I am a woman i.e. adult human female. If that makes me a TERF then that is a badge I will wear proudly. I'm sick of this trans shit.

Comments are generally sensible though.

I do like one where someone says:

I just feel like people should be able to use whatever label they're comfortable with even if people define it differently regarding male lesbians and someone responds that that's like calling herself a vegan, even though she eats cheeseburgers, and gets the response:

sexuality is more fluid and personal than a diet

Which is just ridiculous. I change what I eat day to day, but I've been straight my whole life.

She uses some really harsh words that I don't like reading if I'm honest (and since being on MN I've got a lot more comfortable with swearing - it's name-calling I don't like)

But the word “lesbian” has carried such a deeply uncool connotation for so long — sometimes for terrible reasons (ugly, old-fashioned, essentialist stereotypes) and sometimes for extremely legitimate ones (a history of transmisogyny)

Deeply Uncool? Really? That's the least of it - how about, fetishised, disbelieved, correctively raped? How about rather than call lesbians 'transmisogyinsts' you just let them be, and stop policing them and who they're allowed to love, because that is oppression.