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Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 12/02/2017 11:20

They come up with this.

First post - Why Transwomen Aren't Biologically Male.
www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/

The comments are encouraging though, that is, the ones that haven't been deleted. Lots of people questioning and calling this out.

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Twunk · 14/02/2017 07:28

So....if DH puts on a dress and calls himself Margaret - does that make me a lesbian? Cool. At the moment I'm just a heterosexual female-presenting woman. I could sound so much more interesting! I might say I'm non-binary too - but would I still be a lesbian? Oh now I'm so confused! Grin

Aliasnumberone · 14/02/2017 07:26

That Sean person is repugnant, incidentally identifies as a woman... If queried about gender identity and why they use a ae name and present as male he says it's because he's pre transition... Special snowflake with serious narcissism thrown in for food measure. He's all over Facebook and admins lots of 'feminist' pages and seems to think of himself as The official oracle of feminism.

BenLinusatemyhomework · 14/02/2017 00:22

I'm biannual-sexual and scowl gender and my pronouns are M'Lady - so ner. I can be all hip and special too.

BenLinusatemyhomework · 14/02/2017 00:13

So basically that blog says "we let everyone in and totally redefined ourselves in relation to everyone else needs and now we have no name to call ourselves by and no place to go, but it's fine cos we are still all special and sparkly and not all samey and boring like all you other lot, soooo, that's nice then. Tea, anyone?"

Look, every generation thinks it discovered sex, but this lot think they discovered having a personality and individual interests too.

KanyesVest · 14/02/2017 00:12

I couldn't understand that Slate article at all, it was so full of newspeak, double think and bullshit. I gave up about half way. I did however get as far as her reference to "transmasculine", which wiki via Google tells me is transsexual. I thought that wasn't allowed any more, what with sex being fluid and gender being binary?

Rufus, it was our wedding anniversary yesterday and we are confirmed greysexuals.

mirrorisnotmyfriend · 14/02/2017 00:11

I really hope that there's a backlash from the next generation against Generation Snowflake and their pathetic, self centred drivel and we see a generation of young people who are proactive, outward focused and committed to really fixing the world's problems rather than angsting on social media about hurt feelz and whether they identify as a demiboi multigender fuckwit whose preferred pronouns are lalawotsit/wotsette.

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riobruins · 13/02/2017 23:55

I saw akiosexual in comment earlier.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/02/2017 23:53

Demisexual sounds naice.

DeviTheGaelet · 13/02/2017 23:42

So part way between asexual and sexual

Marriage in other words

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Perfect!

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 23:15

EF is utterly beyond parody.

LumelaMme · 13/02/2017 23:14

Shins upthread commented about made-up qualifications like 'Master of Comics' and I thought she was indulging in a spot of parody.

Then I read 'Meet the Team' of EF.
How wrong I was. Master of Comics. I seriously wonder sometimes where the hell we go from here.

Shins again: No wonder people voted for Trump if this is what's happened to the liberal left.
Too bloody true. The 'team' at EF need to grow up and meet reality.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 13/02/2017 23:06

I am confused...again

Many of us have had or are currently enmeshed in sexual or romantic relationships with people who aren’t women

Well that makes you straight...doesnt it

It used to woman has sex with man = straight, woman has sex with men and women = bi

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:56

The BTL comments are pretty good though.

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:55

There's an absolute doozy just been posted on another thread. For those who haven't seen it, prepare for a repellent millennial hipster brat sneering at "basic" lesbians in a way which is quite breathtaking:

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BBCNewsRave · 13/02/2017 22:52

shins No wonder people voted for Trump if this is what's happened to the liberal left.

Yes, exactly. It occurred to me that even when all this crap has been brought into the open and the lunacy has stopped, feminism and to some extent other social justice movements will be fucked by association (even where association is just assumed). How badly will depend on how far it gets before that happens.

shins · 13/02/2017 22:45

I doubt any of these dimwits have even read Orwell, Mostlybowling. They tend to be astonishingly ignorant of the history of western thought and ideas.

CharlieSierra · 13/02/2017 22:43

My head just exploded!

hangry · 13/02/2017 22:35

reading some of this awful EF shit it does feel more and more like a parody. some anti-feminist/swf trolling of the kind that 4chan and places do?

i mean it's carefully crafted and very slick but it just pushes over into the ridiculous.

there's a couple of donald trump twitter parody accounts and you just can't tell the difference until it goes a tiny bit too far. it strikes me as like them.

yeah i know i'm just clutching at straws but doesn't it all feel like someone started it as a joke and then people took it seriously so they just kept going to see how far they could push the nonsense and haven't found the outer limit yet?

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 13/02/2017 22:34

It's hard to tell from the tiny thumbnail, but at a cursory glance, he even looks a bit like Trotsky. I'm having Animal Farm flashbacks.

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:31

I know.

shins · 13/02/2017 22:29

I'm gonna say it now, with a heavy heart.

No wonder people voted for Trump if this is what's happened to the liberal left.

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:27

You're not comfortable with the mental imagery of panty ripping, but you're comfortable guilt tripping women into sex with men?

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:25

Certainly there are individual cases of interpersonal violence that one could bring up involving a perpetrator of any description. But, although I may not be 100% comfortable with the mental image of panty-ripping, I find it ludicrous to suggest that trans women, in pointing out their exclusion from lesbian sexual communities and the relationship between common lack of cis lesbian desire for trans women and the structural problem of cissexism/transmisogyny, are threatening rape of cis lesbians or perpetuating rape culture

venusinscorpio · 13/02/2017 22:23

I know, who does this self important little prick think he is? Why would anyone bother to grovel to him? Here's a shitty article that they espouse as "education" for lesbians. But they're not homophobic, oh no no no.

queerfeminism.com/2012/03/27/the-cotton-ceiling-is-real-and-its-time-for-all-queer-and-trans-people-to-fight-back/

Gallavich · 13/02/2017 22:22

Yes I get that but that's patriarchy and socialisation. Not because of the asexuality.