Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

Actual Feminist News on FB was invaded by TRAs recently, young people, and I was shocked at their hatred and violence. Not to mention shocking ignorance and illogic. Actually makes me scared of this upcoming generation :-(

except not accept*

mirror I figured as much on the jumping, on the whole they seem very aggressive and defensive if twitter is anything to go by!

Women aren't factoring in it all accept to be called all sorts of names for not saying they're 'real' women, I find it all very dehumanizing. A bit like the jenner thing with changing records to say a woman won the medals, it's like History is completely being re-written, no that person with a penis is a woman, and as such was always women, anyone who thinks otherwise is a crazy bigot.

DH is starting to wake up to this crazyness, he used to think this was just the latest social media 'cause' and I was worrying over nothing but he's in complete disbelief that children are being transed and all sorts of organisations are becoming censored.

But we will just be told that he is completely unusual and not representative.

I've no idea who that is but that person is clearly sexually preoccupied which is not a healthy state of mind. It seems clear to me that the vast majority of young men who are identifying as trans lesbians are porn sick, sexually preoccupied and probably dangerous.

what do you think of this insightful gem?

Nice one Kanye!

I'm feeling very proud. My baby 35yo brother was over for dinner and he mentioned the ftt trans teen wrestler in the news this week. We had a hearty discussion, and ultimately he has acknowledged that he had only ever considered the vulnerable trans perspective, and women hadn't factored in his thinking at all. After our discussion, he is still sympathetic to trans people's difficulties (I didn't throw him done the EF rabbit hole), but he will try to enlighten where he can. One down, several million to go...

@SoulSearcher101 thank you for posting that YouTube video I watched with interest and the Q&A after. I've bookmarked it to watch some others later.

I find it fascinating that the increasingly strict gender roles around children (toys, activities, clothing and colours etc.) have brought us to this point and the upward trend in figures of children and young people were a little alarming particularly with reference to teenage girls (and comorbidity of other issues involved). I can't see how other people aren't making the connection with a backlash against the gender roles and pressure therein young girls are exposed to on a daily basis.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4269792/ANDREW-PIERCE-powerful-transgender-lobby.html

I know it's the Daily Fail but the penny is starting to drop in the wider media.
Andrew Pierce (who is gay he says) has reached peak trans.

Fucking hell that facebook page is dreadful, what the hell am I reading? I want to laugh at it all but I just find myself wanting to cry. I would post some things on that bloody page if my anxiety didn't stop me!

soul

Thanks for that. Interesting, depressing and shocking all at the same time.

Especially that leaflet saying you are still a girl even if you like blow jobs. Ugh. Keep that shit away from kids.

Datun have you seen this vid?

SoulSearcher101

Those suicide statistics need to be held up to more scrutiny. If the attempt to conversion rate, i.e. successful attempts were extrapolated from the figure of 40%, you would see one teen trans killing themselves a week in Britain.

That guy on Fox News really annoyed me with his constant repeating that American teen trans seeking bathroom access were the most vulnerable kids in the country. What, more than victims of domestic violence, child abuse, homeless kids, kids in porn? It really deflects from other issues.

A few threads ago someone suggested an MN campaign against medicalising trans-presenting children. It's barbaric that the only options for Fish and her child and others like them are chemo drugs or nothing.

I do hope so Datun, I am currently trying to engage with a TRA on Twitter who posted a tweet re transpeople and suicide - I respectfully asked that if that person knew of suicidal people then to please advise them to seek psychological intervention - it has already descended into a "bathroom bill" argument from his side which totally deflects from my reasoned question which was "my main concern is why young people feel so disaffected that they feel there is only one way out - are you able to explain that to me please?"

soul

I completely understand how sometimes it can feel like an uphill struggle. People want to be inclusive and often don't see where the harm lies. But because the harm is very real and very detectable, it does start to become apparent.

There is also a lot of fear. Not just of being attacked and abused, but of going against what appears to be a consensus. No one wants to put the head above the parapet But many people do secretly question the ideology.

Little by little it will all come out. A few high-profile cases will give more people courage and, I believe it will snow ball.

A fairly damning report in 2015 by Louise Casey showed that Rotherham council still didn't accept the full extent of what happened.

Sorry, I didn't put that at all well. What I was referring to was the claim - made repeatedly - that there was no grooming scandal. Local politicians and the police dismissed the idea. People who tried to get the authorities to act lost their jobs and were labelled racist.

I'm horrified to hear it's gone underground. That's dreadful. But I imagine the local politicians, the social services, etc are no longer pretending it never happened. At least I bloody well hope so.

Prawn as someone with origins in Rotherham, I think I can suggest that what happened there has not gone away or "collapsed" but rather it has gone deeper underground. People local to the area believe that taxi drivers in particular are going outside the region to get licences to continue the "trade" and also believe that many young people are still caught up in it - that this I am guessing is not reported is a failing in the media. I do however have to say that SYP are trying their very best, sadly that is not always enough, you may have heard of a young woman who was recently killed close to Rotherham - whether that particular case was connected or not is unclear but what is suggested is that she had contacted her murderer via social media: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-38648746

I know it's tough. Sometimes I feel drained by - as you say - the tentacles. But it won't last forever. There have been other medical scandals - fashions - lobotomy, for example - and other scandals of public policy - Rotherham and all the other grooming gangs - and all it takes is a few high profile cases and the whole thing collapses.

I remember the Satanic child abuse business - for years and in the US as well as here there was a strong belief, promoted by doctors and social workers, that hundreds, maybe thousands of children were being ritually abused. The whole thing first took on a life of its own and then - suddenly - collapsed. No one ever mentions it now.

The science behind child transition is rubbish. And when it falls the credibility of all those trans pressure groups will fall too.

Hi Prawn, I have done all I can as a lone voice in the wilderness, wrote to Maria Miller, wrote to my local MP, wrote to the BMA Ethics Committee, wrote to media outlets, spoken to my friend who works for the BBC etc etc. Without a joined up response that is all we will ever be, lone voices, I have tried to contact people/organisations who also question this agenda and get signposted to other organisations who either do not offer the courtesy of responding (as is the case with Maria Miller and my local MP) or support the gender affirming approach (which I totally question). I even tried Samaritans to get some idea of where to go to speak with others and was once again directed to gender affirming organisations - this agenda is insidious and has grown tentacles into every avenue - the only considered response to my queries has been from my local GP who quite clearly indicated that TRA's are a "cult" - his words not mine.

I don't feel we can "leave them to it" because the people who are being harmed aren't the activists but children and teenagers, SoulSearcher. The most important thing is combating the collapse of medical ethics: there appears to be no proper evidence for any of this child transition shit. That and trying to get out an alternative message than that of Mermaids, a very sinister organisation.