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Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 12/02/2017 11:20

They come up with this.

First post - Why Transwomen Aren't Biologically Male.
www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/

The comments are encouraging though, that is, the ones that haven't been deleted. Lots of people questioning and calling this out.

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venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 22:17

I'm actually intrigued by "cyclogender". Are we basically talking about men who are men most of the time but like to pretend to have periods, go to bed with a hot water bottle, eat chocolate and tell people to fuck off? Because obviously women can't identity their way out of hormonal cycles on a whim!

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 22:12

Surely hormonal cycles are triggering to transwomen?

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 22:11

Yes, I think we can safely say the author is on glue.

Lancelottie · 16/02/2017 22:10

Does that boil down to 'My parents don't understand me', do you think?

DeviTheGaelet · 16/02/2017 21:45

Flipping ridiculous. Apparently We all have the right to name and define our experiences, to explore and assert our identities without intrusion or manipulation. but Cis people: Be specific when relaying your pronouns, and don’t intrude on identities that don’t really resonate with you.(how can you even be cis if there are as many genders as humans who have ever lived??!!) And Always look into a gender before claiming it as your own to avoid appropriation.

Is the author on glue? Do they actually believe multi gender people are are oppressed socially and psychologically. Our identities are made invisible; they are trivialized, othered, and dismissed. We suffer stigmatization, microaggressions, and various forms of body terrorism. The legitimacy of our self-understanding is called into question every day.

Body terrorism? WTAF??!!

DeviTheGaelet · 16/02/2017 21:37

Each person has a totally unique interpretation and relationship with any gender they inhabit, and there are at least as many genders as there have been humans who have lived.

If there are as many genders as people who have lived, how is it possible to be transgender? Confused

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 21:25

Just. Fuck. Off.

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 21:24

6. What Pronouns Should I Use for Multigender People?

The answer to this is the same as for everyone: Ask, and then usee^ whatever pronouns you’re told to use.

And, specifically, use all of them.

If someone gives you more than one pronoun to use, don’t just pick the one that’s easy for you and ignore the rest. Use them all, and if someone asks you to use one more than the others, do that, too.

Yeah, fuck you, why should it ever be easy for you you terrible cissexist. Unless you're constantly walking on eggshells and second guessing yourself it's not a fair discussion.

Ouriana · 16/02/2017 21:19

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venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 21:18

Please stop the fucking world and let me get off.

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 21:17

The article has 861 shares. I imagine a large proportion of those are for other people to point and laugh at.

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 21:16

Oh my. Just read the actual EF article. Here are a list of genders which we are supposed to respect:

•	Amorgender – gender that changes in response to a romantic partner’s
•	Mirrorgender – gender that changes to reflect those around you
•	Ambigender – two genders experienced simultaneously as equal and unchanging
•	Chaosgender – gender that is highly unpredictable
•	Genderfuck – a subversive gender that can be singular or multi
•	Demifluid – having multiple genders where some are fluid, while others are static
•	Collgender – not pangender, but having too many genders to describe
•	Endogender – having multiple genders that all relate to a specific gender construct, e.g. mascfluid
•	Cyclogender – gender that changes with hormonal cycles
•	Fissgender – having highly disparate genders, as in “fissured”
•	Domgender – having multiple genders where one is dominant over the rest
•	Gendervex – having multiple genders, each of which is unidentifiable
venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 20:08

Brilliant, they've tied themselves up in knots with their own inane take on inclusivity and policing of safe spaces Grin

Obviously not everyone on Everyday Feminism's chosen uncensored commenting pool on Facebook got that memo, because when I last looked there were tons of SJW types merrily appropriating Native American two spirit people and Albanian sworn virgins to feed the transagenda, as well as intersex people and (obvs) women.

mirrorisnotmyfriend · 16/02/2017 19:55

I've found my gender.

I am MAXIGENDER.

I can do this without culturally appropriating other genders, Everyday Utter Fucking Drivel says so.

heatst.com/culture-wars/everyday-feminism-says-choose-any-gender-you-want-but-not-culturally-inappropriate-genders/

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CaptainBrickbeard · 16/02/2017 19:16

The urban dictionary thing is hilarious except for the use of the word 'fucktard' - I really don't think that's an ok word to use. Other than that, it is genius!

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 16/02/2017 19:05

That Everyday Misogyny definition is a work of fucking genius. I wish I knew who wrote it so I could buy her a drink.

venusinscorpio · 16/02/2017 18:59

But there are like, really small men! And really large women! There are no meaningful differences!

AssassinatedBeauty · 16/02/2017 18:54

I'm guessing they'll win or place in most events they compete in, what with their larger lung capacity, different skeletal structure and so on. Totally fair of course to compete against women who cannot in any way replicate that. Totally fair.

Bambambini · 16/02/2017 18:21

There is a Transwomen cycle team competing in the US. Will bevinteresting to see how it developes.

BenLinusatemyhomework · 16/02/2017 16:50

They already can compete fairly at every level... In the male category. If taking hormones puts them at a disadvantage well that's a choice they need to weigh up when making that decision to take them. Athletes have to make all sorts of sacrifices and compromises to compete at top levels, this is no different. They can socially transition in the mean time.

It's only female athletes who are going to be affected by this as transmen who could get into the top tiers of male athletic prowess will be as rare as hens teeth.

Redrocketship · 16/02/2017 16:30

". The right of trans athletes, particularly trans women, to actively
participate in fair competition at every level of sport, often finds itself under
scrutiny from fellow athletes and governing bodies"

oh fuck off, what about the rights of female athletes to "fair competition" ie- to not be forced to compete against biological males, who possess all the athletic advantages of their sex.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/02/2017 13:03

Thats true errol

ErrolTheDragon · 16/02/2017 09:38

Probably better he errs on that side of it than the other, and maybe add that drunken sex is more likely to be irresponsible sex?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 16/02/2017 09:28

Thanks alias

He is a young 13 and was struggling with "is it always rape if the girl is drunk...what if the boy is drunk as well" so he thought that if you have sex if the girl is drunk then its automatically rape...when loads of people have drunken consensual sex.

It was too early in the morning for me so i clarified it as much as i could ....in that it has to be an enthusiastic yes and it would be much better for him not to get drunk and have sex with a drunk girl

Will clarify it more over the next few days

MercyMyJewels · 16/02/2017 09:24

Mirror

Awesome work Grin