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Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 12/02/2017 11:20

They come up with this.

First post - Why Transwomen Aren't Biologically Male.
www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/

The comments are encouraging though, that is, the ones that haven't been deleted. Lots of people questioning and calling this out.

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venusinscorpio · 18/02/2017 13:04

If Ian Huntley does get moved to a women's prison, say, I imagine there would be some comment.

venusinscorpio · 18/02/2017 13:03

I think the truth is that a) people don't give it much thought if they're not directly affected and b) they're not aware of the truth of the situation or the extent of what is going on.

Glitteryunicorn · 18/02/2017 12:42

Good question devi Grin

YetAnotherSpartacus · 18/02/2017 12:33

I've seen a few comments elsewhere on MN, especially recently, to the effect that only on FWR are women frothy or intolerant re trans (and men too, for that matter). This intrigues me. I wonder what the truth is?

Ouriana · 18/02/2017 12:26

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DeviTheGaelet · 18/02/2017 12:02

I am going to try asking in a more open way and we will see if she answers 😊

PlectrumElectrum · 18/02/2017 12:00

I'm actually torn on this - on the 1 hand, asking the questions & then being clearly ignored can work to highlight the issue & how women's concerns are being routinely ignored. On the other hand the tumbleweed on that web chat also makes the point if MN want to sanitise their website with extreme moderation on one topic above all others, their large membership base isn't going to engage with this form of webchat & it will effectively lessen the 'pull' for anyone doing the PR rounds with whatever promotion they are pushing. Spectacular own goal by MNHQ but inevitable if they think the specific moderation applied to any transgender debates is an effective way to manage this issue in order to keep the trans lobby off their backs & well away from their sponsors.

PlectrumElectrum · 18/02/2017 11:39

Prawn I feel exactly the same. I want to ask similar questions but I expect to be ignored, deleted or banned.

CharlieSierra · 18/02/2017 11:39

Have MN said anywhere that the subject can't be raised? Maybe one well thought and and worded question is the way to go?

PlectrumElectrum · 18/02/2017 11:36

It's absurd that MN are effectively sanitising the webchat platform - given HH's history/background in feminism/women's rights, she's ideally placed to ask about the conflict between the trans agenda & women's rights, but it's clear MN are happy to allow these questions to be totally ignored & then accuse MN members of 'harassment' if the highlight the obvious ignoring of questions.

CharlieSierra · 18/02/2017 11:33

I will write to my MP but last time I wrote she ignored me

If you use a template they ignore you, definitely if you use writetothem.com there is an algorithm.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 18/02/2017 11:32

I certainly won't be engaging with any webchats unless I can be confident that I can ask anything that's relevant. Harriet Harman used to put herself out there as a feminist, though she also got sucked in to campaigning for the paedophile group PIE. Would like to know whether she is still a feminist and whether she is aware of the risks to women and girls posed by trans activism. But I'm not at all sure I dare pose the question.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 18/02/2017 11:27

I would like to hear Harriet Harman's definition of the word "woman" and to ask what she thinks about the imminent vote. I don't want to get banned however, and MNHQ,reacted pretty fiercely last time.

I got the impression that HQ were, essentially, embarrassed by the previous webchat. There was definitely a good bit of annoyance at our persistence. I imagine the politicians are expecting to be able to discuss their chosen issues and were disconcerted to be put on the spot.

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 18/02/2017 11:11

I will write to my MP but last time I wrote she ignored me. She is an SNP drone who can't think for herself and I'm pretty sure their party line is pro trans as they mistakenly think it's progressive.

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 18/02/2017 11:10

Apparently they'd had a few complaints.....MNHQ I mean.

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PlectrumElectrum · 18/02/2017 11:09

I'm assuming the tumbleweed on HH webchat at the moment is as a result of the previous fiasco & MNHQ's terms set out for this webchat? Am I wrong on that assumption?

RaisinsAndApple · 18/02/2017 10:55

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msrisotto · 18/02/2017 10:00

I am glad they asked, but I see no reasoning behind changing ridiculous to surprising.

Glitteryunicorn · 18/02/2017 09:57

Thanks for the link it does set the argument out very fairly, I'd also like to share it on Facebook but I'm scared of the reaction but I suppose that's how they are getting away with it

Gallavich · 18/02/2017 09:53

Did MNHQ not realise the site isn't called everyday transactivism though
Like the 'ridiculous' bit is what they might object to

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 18/02/2017 09:41

I have broken my silence on FB and started sharing stuff. You will lose a few friends - I have - but you will also wake up other women to what's going on.

Re the thread title, MNHQ asked if they could change it. TBH I wasn't delighted about it but would rather they changed it than took it down. I presume Everyday Transactivism is quite litigious and they might have wanted to avoid that.

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nauticant · 18/02/2017 08:17

Have a look at the summary in this link Glittery:

womenanalysingpolicyonwomen.wordpress.com/

Datun · 18/02/2017 08:07
  • sorry, under discrimination law, it IS unlawful.
Datun · 18/02/2017 08:05

Glittery

You could ask your MP to define the word woman for you.

And you could ask him if it is true that it is now unlawful for women to gather together in an official capacity in a woman only space, without the presence of someone born male, if that someone says so.

Because under discrimination law, it isn't.

And if self identification goes through on 24 February, any fucking man anywhere, claiming to be a woman can walk into your women only gathering and you cannot say no.