Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

"I do hope someone, somewhere will just see how ludicrous this all is."

Somebody needs to Datun. And whichever is the first political party to openly challenge this madness, I swear I will vote for them forever. Even if it is the Tories

(Disclaimer: UKIP don't count)

*legally transitioning. Sorry!

I doubt the girls will want to score an own goal by illegally transitioning (although they might, teens are generally partial to a little rebellion).

But what if a boy wants to come to the school who has legally transitioned, not just identified?

So he will be allowed in and if girls legally transition they'll be thrown out.

I do hope someone, somewhere will just see how ludicrous this all is.

The way I'm reading that st pauls thing (are there any better sources?), they are allowing the girls to identify their gender as neutral or male but that they are still a single sex school - see the last para, that if any transitioned to become legally male they wouldn't be able to stay. If this distinction between gender identification and legal 'sex change' (transgender v transsexual) remains clear then its not too bad. I'd hope they encourage pupils (except if they get the occasional case of genuine dysphoria) to happily throw off gender stereotypes but be comfortable with their sex.

I totally agree, and despite how batshit and amusing this thread is in parts, it highlights this confusion. We are expected by transactivists and "feminist" sites like EF to give as much consideration to someone calling themselves "cyclogender" or some such narcissistic wankery as we are to someone with gender dysphoria who has medical reasons for wanting to be the opposite sex.

"I wonder what Harriet Harman will think of this.."

Someone pop over and ask her.

I've heard this current epidemic described as social contagion (on MN I think), it's the most accurate description IMO. I really can't believe that there is suddenly such a huge occurrence of gender dysphoria. Whatever happened to the saying "hard cases make poor laws"?

Either way, the issue will end up being whether it is okay to have an all girls school. The answer will be no. And puff, another female only space disappears

Yep.

And 10 girls at St Paul's, really???? Are we honestly supposed to believe that 10 girls in one school are genuinely suffering with dysphoria? It simply isn't possible.

And I'm sorry, there needs to be some kind of qualifying here.

Are girls are coming out at a rate of knots and identifying as boys, purely on the basis of being allowed to be flexible with one's gender identity.

Or are they 'born in the wrong body'??

I thought the entire point of the ideology was to help people who, through no fault of their own, had some god-awful accident of biology thrust upon them.

Is that really the cause of half a dozen girls coming out as trans?

I'm certain no one thinks it is. Certainly not the headteacher of that school.

In which case, are we changing legislation based on a horrible accident of birth, or what people feel like doing on a day-to-day basis? Swathes of legislation. Important legislation. Vital legislation. On what a bunch of teenagers feel like doing??

It can't be both.

So either that school is now co-ed. In which case boys can apply. Or those girls need to be removed and put in either a co-ed school or a boys school.

Either way, the issue will end up being whether it is okay to have an all girls school. The answer will be no. And puff, another female only space disappears.

I wonder what Harriet Harman will think of this..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239132/Top-girls-school-allows-pupils-identified-male.html

Twogoats

He is a monster. But that's the point of it.

You need highlight that it is exactly people like him who will exploit the legislation.

It's not about giving publicity to him, it's about showing that the legislation needs to be changed, precisely because of people like him.

Because, make no mistake, the legislation as it stands will allow people like Huntley to eventually leave prison as a woman and straight into women's spaces and a plethora of new victims.

With the full backing of the law.

I know it will help the cause, but I really don't think we should encourage this Ian Huntley thing. He's a monster whom we should give no attention to.

I've just been reading up on the gender identity bill how can someone who was the minister for women sponsor a bill which supports the erosion of women's rights?

I thought the video was excellent although the point about the erasure of sex discrimination laws is very sad and scary
I really feel like I need to highlight to my friends as i don't think enough people are aware of it but i don't want to wake any trans trolls that maybe laying dormant on my social media my anxiety can't take it

BamBambini Seriously... someone should do that. And send it to the Mail.

Beyond

I expect they're preparing it as we speak...

I meant abso-fucking-lutely, obviously. DYAC

Abso-fucking-lately Bambambini!

Beyond

Before you keep that promise, Have a look at the debate on this issue, hosted by the Heritage foundation. This is what we can talk about when we have a voice. It's in this thread. Debate

Definitely a call to activism

Looking forward to the EF article "62 ways female prisoners are more privileged than Lian Huntley"

I was banned too. Promised (voluntarily) that I'd stay away from webchats in future though when I was reinstated.

I want to see a petition started in support of Huntley (like Tara Hudson had) and for it to go viral over FB and social media. It should be sent to every trans activist organisationI like Stonewall and Pride, all the University Unions to get them behind it. Ask them to organise a march for Huntley. The press could report on it. I think we should bombard our MPs (especially Maria Miller) to support Huntley in being recognised as a woman and being transferred to a womens prison.

I was one of the ones who got banned on the other web chat.

They didn't say why, specifically.

They didn't say you are not allowed to ask about trans. I suppose it could be that they say you're only allowed to ask one question per person.

The Ian Huntley thing is freaking me out. I hate seeing that monster's face!

Again - his rights as a "woman" would trump the real women's rights to be safe.