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DeviTheGaelet · 11/02/2017 17:14

www.inquisitr.com/3508199/mens-rights-activism-and-the-mad-rush-to-victimhood/

This is what male posters often do and this is why we might get short with you.
Don't do this and you will be fine.

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CruellaDeVilsEvilSister · 12/02/2017 15:00

I've read some interesting stuff via Reddit about it makeourfuture There is a decent argument for there being a need to reduce the number of men substantially. Again, not something that's going to happen. Even as men drive us towards the brink of the next mass extinction event (environmental catastrophe or nuclear war) the effects are going to be to wipe out as many women as men.

Xenophile · 12/02/2017 14:59

Is the "victim card" the same as the "race card"?

AntiSocialInjusticePacifist · 12/02/2017 14:57

Basically men cannot be victims of anything? Especially systemic sexism? The end of that article really grinds my gears as essentially it's women who get to play the victim card, and we men should be too heroic and masculine to stoop to playing it ourselves.

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break. I mean really, enforcing gender roles much??

makeourfuture · 12/02/2017 14:41

I was reading about the "surplus male theory". The author was stating that armies and navies existed in order to keep masses of young males from causing problems. But I was thinking that as soon as you build an army you may feel the need to invade something.

Xenophile · 12/02/2017 13:59

Good flow chart M0stly.

Let's see if they can be more honest than the obvious.

CruellaDeVilsEvilSister · 12/02/2017 12:54

Great flowchart M0stly!

CruellaDeVilsEvilSister · 12/02/2017 12:53

I wouldn't want to lose the men who that link doesn't apply to.

They wouldn't take up much space so they'd be welcome! Grin

DeviTheGaelet · 12/02/2017 12:36

Awesome M0stly.
Can we add a question about circumcision? And girls taking all the STEM jobs?

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TalkingintheDark · 12/02/2017 12:20

Love the flow chart! If only...

cadnowyllt · 12/02/2017 12:16

M0stly As for myself :

  1. No.
  2. Yes.
  3. No.
  4. I don't know. Stats are only as good as the data in.
  5. No.
  6. I don't understand the question. I do think some rapes are more serious than others.
  7. Yes
  8. Yes.
  9. No.
M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 12/02/2017 12:05

Maybe a flow chart would work better...

Are you here to tell feminists where feminism is going wrong? yes/no

Are you prepared to listen to what women say about their lives? yes/no

Do you think feminists are a borg-like collective with a hive mind? yes/no

Do you think the gender pay gap is purely an artefact of the way ONS collect statistics? yes/no

Do you attach the word "but" to the end of the sentence "Of course women should be able to say what happens to their own bodies"? yes/no

Do you think some rapes are more "rapey" than others? yes/no

Do you think domestic violence is an overwhelmingly gendered phenomenon? yes/no

Do you think the sex industry is an overwhelmingly gendered phenomenon? yes/no

Do you think that sexist adverts are fine because DIET COKE ADVERT, PEOPLE!!!? yes/no

Eventually the flow chart would lead to

Hi, sounds like you might have some interesting opinions and be able to have a two-way conversation about them. Welcome.

or

Here's your thermos, ham sandwiches and oyster card. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

MrsDoylesTeabags · 12/02/2017 11:55

Grin Basil
Devi I thought it was a really interessting article with some very good points. It's a shame the MRA comments below did not read it.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/02/2017 11:51

I wouldn't want to lose the men who that link doesn't apply to.

DeviTheGaelet · 12/02/2017 11:49

cadno in all seriousness I'm surprised that the link and the conversation about MGTOW have bothered you enough for you to post snarky comments. If it's not because your feelings are hurt, perhaps you can enlighten me as to what did cause it?

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CruellaDeVilsEvilSister · 12/02/2017 11:45

Is sex-separation the only way we can't live together??

Sex-separation is an interesting idea though isn't it? Purely hypothetical of course because as VestalVirgin said upthread men would never actually want it because they stand to lose too much. What would women lose from it though?

HelenDenver · 12/02/2017 11:45

Pint of your usual bullshit, cadno?

Oh, my mistake, you're tanked up on it already.

cadnowyllt · 12/02/2017 11:43

I'm presuming you are an adult and so, do you really honestly think you've hurt anybody's 'feelings' by that link of yours ? "Oh dear everyone - look at me - how naughty I am - being beastly to the menz, ooh what am I like ?'.

Fancy growing up any time soon ?

FloweringDeranger · 12/02/2017 11:35

. I'd have thought that most men would be only too glad to fuck off away from you.
waiting... Smile

Is sex-separation the only way we can't live together??

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 12/02/2017 11:34

Ah luffs AskBasil. Blush

Oooohhh, flapjack. Ready for second breakfasts.

DeviTheGaelet · 12/02/2017 11:31
Grin If your feelings aren't hurt, why are you so bothered? Surely that article doesn't refer to you and you aren't MGTOW so why? Or maybe you are MGTOW who likes hanging round on a feminist board Grin
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cadnowyllt · 12/02/2017 10:59

Devi - in your dreams, perhaps

DeviTheGaelet · 12/02/2017 10:48

Oh dear I've hurt the men's feelings by posting an article suggesting it isn't all about them. Sorry boys.
flowering* yy

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FloweringDeranger · 12/02/2017 10:30

I thought that article was really interesting, but it isn't just the men that need to read it. I'm hearing an awful lot of 'but what about the poor men' from women at the moment. It drives me round the bend (well, another bend).

HelenDenver · 12/02/2017 10:14

No one did, Errol.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/02/2017 09:57

Did anyone say 'no men allowed'?Confused