New male contraceptive jab , 100% effective and lasts two years.

The technique in the New Scientist article is not the one the OP is about.

It's the one with 5% of men still producing sperm at only levels associated with infertility at one-year follow up (don't know if they did further follow-ups)

Personally, I see my contraceptive choices as entirely my own responsibility- part of having control over my own body and future in the same way as having or not having an abortion. It makes sense for men individually and independently of their partners to have the same level of choice and control

I agree.

The article doesn't demonstrate that it was closed down due to whiny men though Spartacus - it was closed down due to caution on the part of the researchers after one of the participants attempted suicide. Three quarters of the participants said they'd happily continue to use the contraceptive if they were allowed to which is pretty high I'd say.

Now I don't know whether they'd have stopped a test of a new contraception on women who showed the same level of side effects? Maybe not, because I think medics do allow the risks of the pregnancy you're avoiding to balance out a greater level of contraceptive risk in women - and there's a whole level of feminist analysis to unpick there which I'm not currently up to.

Seriously-some people wouldn't trust 'any' man who said that he had had this?

Wow. I must be a real weirdo to be prepared to trust my husband if he told me he'd had this done...

Here is an article on a previous study (I'm not sure if it is the same jab).

www.newscientist.com/article/2110729-male-contraceptive-injection-works-but-side-effects-halt-trial/

The side-effects that the men mentioned seem quite similar to those of the female pill, although any related to blood-clots were not mentioned. But many men found these unacceptable. Having had experiences of men whining about condoms because they 'don't feel as good' I can well imagine this.

I don't think it matters whether you'd trust a man - though presumably if you drove your own DH to the clinic and waited for him, you might. It matters that men have LARC that they can, and should, apply to themselves if they don't want to be fathers. Women can keep taking their own precautions too if they choose

I think that's a really good point. Personally, I see my contraceptive choices as entirely my own responsibility- part of having control over my own body and future in the same way as having or not having an abortion. It makes sense for men individually and independently of their partners to have the same level of choice and control.

I don't think it matters whether you'd trust a man - though presumably if you drove your own DH to the clinic and waited for him, you might. It matters that men have LARC that they can, and should, apply to themselves if they don't want to be fathers. Women can keep taking their own precautions too if they choose

That makes sense. I really can't imagine any single woman trusting this but whilst it always takes 2 to tango it removes any possibility of claims of entrapment. Of course outside of committed relationships condoms should be used anyway.

Ooh I thought my ears were burning

I don't think it matters whether you'd trust a man - though presumably if you drove your own DH to the clinic and waited for him, you might. It matters that men have LARC that they can, and should, apply to themselves if they don't want to be fathers. Women can keep taking their own precautions too if they choose.

I think in a long term committed relationship it could be a useful alternative option.

Sounds great in theory. But (if I was still of an age to be worried about becoming pregnant) I don't think I would trust any man that he had had it.

Slarti It took Ovaries a whole 3 minutes from the opening post to post-

And the chances of anyone taking it up are incredibly slim. Contraception is the girl's responsibility. One injection every two years is a vile invasion of their human rights

Etc etc meninism etc

This apparently purporting to be what men's responses will be based on something men might or might not have said in the past. Had she bothered to read the comments on the article that is not what the responses were.

Slarti... my apologies, let me be explicit, the comments Ovaries repeated are shit and wrong.

Ovaries: 'One injection every two years is a vile invasion of their human rights.'

Spongebob: 'Cue an apprise of men with a fear of needles.'

That isn't repeating sexist remarks by men, it's making sexist remarks about them. You're performing back flips to avoid acknowledging that.

I used Ovaries as an exemplar because you did

The abive post? What is that supposed to add?

Ovaries post was sexist and wrong although seems to have taken you several posts to get to that conclusion.

Tbh I have doubt.
I think that decent men will be happy to use it. They will be the ones who will support a woman who has got pg accidentally etc...
The ones who just don't care, never see their child or pays maintenance, I suspect will still not see that as their responsibility.

As a woman, unless in a stable LTR, i wouldnt trust a man to take that injection. The risk for me to get pg (as in associated pg risks, raising a child on my own and the likes) is too big to leave that responsibility to someone else.
Fo course, it doesn't stop men to still have the injection to protect themselves from these awful women who get pg on purpose. Just as they could easily use a condom.

Lass... please read my subsequent post which adequately explains why I chose to comment on her post. or at least link your comments to it in a more rational fashion.

Slarti... my apologies, let me be explicit, the comments Ovaries repeated are shit and wrong.

Slarti... if you're referring to Ovaries' comments, she is merely repeating things that men have said about contraception on this board and elsewhere. So yes, I'd agree they're sexist, but not that ovaries is being sexist. So, not criticising men for what they might say, but for what they already have said

Ovaries was the first post about a new technique but rather than comment on that she chose to add a glib comment about what might have been said in the past.

I know it was a Daily Mail article and Daily Mail comments and ,despite so many DM links so many MNetters never read the DM, but none of the comments I saw made that point. The vast majority thought it was a good idea- not necessarily from honourable reasons in most cases - from the prospect of being free of being "trapped" by contraceptive failures.

Personally if I really wanted to avoid getting pregnant I'd stick to the pill or condoms where I can control/ see the evidence. Might be different in a very committed relationship but in anything else, no I would not rely on this.

"if you use them religiously and correctly every single time

That's the same as the contraceptive pill though. "

It isn't. The pill does need to be used properly but, for most users, missing one pill will not result in a pregnancy, as the chemicals hang around in the reproductive system for a bit longer. Plus, if not on the mini pill, there's some leeway when you take it etc.

If the condom splits or slips, that's more likely to result in pregnancy.

(Time of month dependent)

Xenophile, sorry you've experienced that on social media from other men. Repaying in kind or supporting those who do isn't the answer though surely. Like I said, it's sexist, antagonistic and divisive, and the fact we are quibbling about it rather than agreeing it wasn't nice gives certain people ammunition.

This is very promising, DH has just asked if he can volunteer for the trial to get first dibs. Something like this would make our lives much easier right now, I can't take hormonal contraceptives and the copper coil is also a no go, DH has offered to have a vasectomy but I don't think we should go ahead just yet (I'm still on the fence about having another one). A two year contraceptive would be grand, giving us plenty of time to decide one way or any other.

Slarti, I have that experience every single day on social media, but I can understand how jarring it must have been for you if it's your first experience of it. I used Ovaries as an exemplar because you did. My apologies for having upset you.

Special... we do so value your pithy bon mots on random threads, they show what a delightfully eccentric reading comprehension ability you have. No one here hates men in the way you so patently hate women, but thanks for showing Slarti a tiny example of what women have to put up with from the terminally ignorant.

"But it shouldnt be an issue for those on this board who hate all men and so are unlikely to have sex with someone they hate."

Yawn.

I'll flag it to DH. Would be nice to have a break from the pill.

Interesting. I'm lucky that dh sees contraception as both our responsibility and we will definitely look into this.

Sadly, I think most men will see it as an insult to their masculinity and refuse.

Excellent news! As a mother of sons, this makes me v. hopeful.wonder when if it will actually take off? Dh would be an ideal candidate.