Why do so many men turn bad...?

Datun he's very happy!

I'm waiting for an answer to nots question.

What did I say I had faced?

Though, let's be fair, after all it isn't always about the victim. Those aggressive women probably just couldn't control their hormonal urges, it's probably an alpha male thing.

jms

Why don't you ask him? I suspect he's not very happy.

Notwhatiexpected

I have a friend who is a male sex worker. He has 5 or 6 regular clients, all female, plus occasional comers and goers if you'll pardon the expression. Is he being objectified and exploited by entitled women just because they have money and they can?
Or is he coining it and having a bloody good time whilst making a lot of women very happy?

I am REALLY confused, Jml you said:

"That's because women don't have the experience of(or the ability to understand ) how a male brain perceives the need for sex. Try imagining when your ovulating or whatever it is for you, at your horniest then you've had a few drinks, you feel happy elated you really really want sex......that doesn't even begin to come close!.
That's like comparing the desire for a peice of New York cheesecake with pouring cream (my favourite) to the need and desperation of a starving man to steal a sandwich he sees someone holding in the street.
It's not a really desirable nice-to-have! It's a desperate overwhelming, all-consuming need to copulate above anything else in the world! From being teenagers boys have to deal with these urges and thoughts constantly! From the moment they wake up (usually with an erection) to the moment they go to sleep (usually with an erection). EVERY woman they see stimulates them sexually. Not just attractive women. All women! From their friends mum to the dinner ladies. Given the chance they would literally shag every female they could get their hands on until their semen had turned to water and their cocks were falling off!
These urges Never go away. Most males just learn how to deal with them over time because they're Always there."

BUT you have so many anecdotes about how you and your teenage boy, literally hundreds of times (your words) you have bravely faced aggressive sexually motivated women.

How do you control your primal urges, when you are being so cruelly abused?

Of course prostitution is different to physiotherapy or massage. Can't you tell the difference? Using your hands to do physio or massage is not the same as having men penetrate your body.

jms nearly all rapists manage to restrain themselves until they are in a situation where they are less likely to get caught. They can easily restrain themselves until that situation occurs, suggesting that restraint is completely possible and they are choosing to rape. The idea of men having uncontrollable urges is offensive to men and women, the idea that prostitutes need to be available to reduce the rate of rape is also absurd.

My suggestion is that it be legalised and regulated. All workers must be over 25, must pass rigorous tests including psychological, drug, and general health. Must have premises, pay tax, NI , full record of clients and ability to regulate there own environments, accounts, cctv, security recordings etc...Do all this- get a licence- get regularly checked both personally mentally and physically and for business H&S

Then, and only then can you lay on your back for 10 hours getting violated by a stream of grubby strangers.

Will an orthopaedic mattress be part of the perks? Along with all that 'respect'.

jms, if even the smallest hint of a smidgeon of a barely perceptible waft of your attitude permeates your real life, I suggest you simply cut out all the blustering and go straight to the result - a mammoth spray of Woman Repellent by Christian Duh should do the trick.

....and it doesnt treat women as objects anymore than a physiotherapist or masseuse or anyone who uses their body to provide a service to another person.

It would have to involve PPE, jml, to be a proper job.

Two problems with your idea jml :

It reinforces the idea ingrained into society that women are the sex class and there should be a group of women available at all times to be used by men as men are entitled to sex.

It can be very difficult to tell when someone is being exploited or coerced.

Mostly' your point is irrelevant - the fight or flight response to getting caught is nothing to do with urge to have sex in the first place!

Safe and secure in that situation is regulated by the trained and attested sex worker.

Because it still treats women as objects men can buy.

Plus, define "safe and secure", when you're talking about bodily fluids and intimate contact in private.

Rebel no i didn't claim that at all I said most men don't rape for a laugh!
The only experience of rape in my family is of my teenage son being raped by a 40 yr old woman. I don't know why she did it but maybe if she was getting sex elsewhere she wouldn't have done it!
Im not saying that lack of access to sex is the only or even the major reason why rape occurs but
If there are people that want to sell sex and people that want to buy it in a safe secure way where no one is being exploited then why shouldn't it be allowed?

David Lisak (American criminal psychologist) has extensively researched what he calls "undetected rapists" - the guys who commit date rape. His research indicates that most date rapists are serial offenders who pre-plan their attacks - they are not "ordinary joes carried away by the heat of passion."

In any case, consider that incredibly randy animal, the adolescent boy. He and his girlfriend are busy shagging like rabbits (consensually) when his mum walks into the bedroom on the hunt for dirty socks. Does he stop instantly? Damn right he does. This myth that men have utterly uncontrollable sexual urges is just that, a myth. They may have strong sexual urges, but (barring severe mental problems) those urges are ones they are able to control. Some men just choose not to, because they don't give a shit about the women they want to fuck.

Good point Not

Jls you claimed men don't rape for shits and giggles. Sadly I know from experience that they do. And also that they get off on the power.
Anyways... I'm out. Enjoy your prostitutes for all fantasy.

Venus, I bet the health and safety laws will be quite different in Utopia. Semen will probably be revered as a gift from the gods.

Jms the thought that you are a parent to men makes me feel sick.

Yeah the way to stop rape is let them pay to use women's bodies.

Are you a bit dense? That just contributes to a society that thinks women's bodies are for the taking.

Rebel you seem to want keep bringing it back to gang rape!
No of course gang rape isn't about sex but most rape isn't gang rape!

It obviously won't be a utopia or anything close. No doubt like the criminalisation of buying sex which has worked so well in Sweden!