Why do so many men turn bad...?

jms

When a man gives you a deep sports massage and drills down into those muscles that really need relief.

Yay!

Then ask him to bend over while you do him up the arse.

What's so special about giving genital pleasure rather than giving any other physical pleasure (eg foot or head massage) that it suddenly becomes non-consesual ?

Says A Man.

jms it's the sexual aspect not the intimate aspect that is relevant to consent.

M0stly

There are very likely some men who think like that. And women's radar are finally honed to recognise them.

Even if they are conventionally 'gorgeous' these men have creep written across their forehead.

It never ceases to amaze me that men don't make the connection that those men who want women to provide them with sex the most, are those who rarely succeed.

Datun this is getting rather circular. My point/question was; Is he being objectified and exploited?

Assassin massages can be very intimate - as can wiping the shit off someone's arse or changing their catheter in a care home is that also not consensual unless it's done with out payment. What's so special about giving genital pleasure rather than giving any other physical pleasure (eg foot or head massage) that it suddenly becomes non-consesual ?

I'd also like to know what Jms' evidence is for his assertion that all men spend all day thinking sexually (or at least assessing sexually) every single woman they meet. Is it peer reviewed? Is it widely accepted by psychologists? Is it based on "locker room banter"? Or is he merely projecting from his own mental landscape onto every other man in the world?

Datun you said;
"I bet he's not happy"

I replied; "He's very happy"

You replied; "... and your point is?"

I still don't know what you're trying to say! He is happy, I was wrong Good on him.

No-one should touch somebody up without their consent.

So you know a happy hooker. Bully for you. I know an ex prostitute who was trafficked into prostitution aged 13, hated it, is still deeply traumatised by it and is still trying to kick the drugs habit that got her through the day.

That's why the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data.

Datun you said;
"I bet he's not happy"

I replied; "He's very happy"

You replied; "... and your point is?"

Jms if you can't differentiate between intimate sexual activity and giving a massage or doing physio then I'm not sure it's worth trying to explain anything to you about what I think.

Datun my point is ; Is he being objectified and exploited by entitled women just because they have money and they can?
Or is he coining it and having a bloody good time whilst making a lot of women very happy?

Well you've answered that question yourself. You told me is very happy.

I still don't know what your point is.

Assassin why does money changing hands mean it's not consensual?
If I pay for a massage does that mean it wasn't consensual?

Nots - Very gracious of you! Thankyou! 😊

The happy hooker story. Can I call BINGO on this game?

Datun my point is ; Is he being objectified and exploited by entitled women just because they have money and they can?
Or is he coining it and having a bloody good time whilst making a lot of women very happy?

Sorry that anecdote was about your "colleague".

"I was at work in the kitchen a few weeks ago and a male colleague of mine was having his muscles felt by the HR Director (a woman) she felt his arms and put her hands on his chest above his nipples and squoze/squeezed!" etc.

I apologise for incorrectly suggesting that women had lost control around you, become a victim of their female hormones.

I am sorry I suggested that you might be a woman magnet because of your alpha sexy smells.

Thank you for the clarification.

If it was consensual sex the punters wouldn't have to pay for it.

What relevance does your mate have to whether prostitution should be legalised and encouraged as a tool to prevent rape?

Nots still waiting for your response! What are you saying I said I have faced?

Datun I never said I was outraged. Far from it! The exact opposite in fact - I said it's totally normalised- hence the double standard!
Anyway are you implying that if a man touches up a woman without permission then it's OK so long as she's always thinking about (or probably always thinking about) sex?

Datun he's very happy!

That's great! What's your point?

Rebel thought you'd gone! Couldn't stay away obv. Sorry about your vomit. Was it the thought of people having consensual sex?

jms

You were outraged over the fact that your son had been subjected to sexual aggression hundreds of times, whilst at the same time saying claiming that primal urges/a biological imperative made men think constantly of sex and how to get it.

I actually threw up in my mouth a little bit.