"Chestfeeding"

Exactly Breakfast...if you can cope with doing the most female things possible then you can cope with using the correct language associated with them

So according to the author, a person is assigned female at birth but self identifies as male. Ok.
So despite being a man, he decides to do the three most female-defining things I can think of : he becomes pregnant, he gives birth, and he produces milk to feed his baby. He feeds his baby with milk produced by glandular tissue which become enlarged and engorged during this process.
He does all this and still considers himself male, but a third party using the word breastfeeding is "triggering and a hurtful reminder" of his previous life.
Really?
I tried to reconcile this and ended up with the same sort of scrambled thought process which results from considering the contradictions and impossibilities of time travel

A 'breastplate' is part of a suit of armour.

The term 'big chested' often means a girl with large breasts, not Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Men and women can both clutch things to their 'bosoms'.

We could all talk about 'chest feeding' and then some idiot would say that it was upsetting because it had too many connotations of cis women. However, there are very few words that unambiguously refer to a woman's mammary glands, probably because the English language avoids that kind of thing.

The problem is that that any idiot can say anything on the internet, but in the context of this subject, people accept a lot of nonsense because questioning current trends in gender definition is lumped in with being anti LGBT.

I'm hoping that things like this will succeed in waking the "general public" up to the current status quo regarding trans activism.

If there's one thing the general public hates, it's being told what to do and say by the "PC brigade" (I use that term quasi-ironically). Whether or not people grasp the deeper theoretical issues behind it is another matter, but hopefully it will be a start.

I've stopped being surprised by the unending narcissism of this movement which demands that women's reality be erased in favour of men's feelz, tbh.

and Breakfast

so do we have to redefine being human out of the genus classes mammalia and placentalia in case this offends by referencing the mammary glands and placentas that are fundamental to our biology and reproduction (male and female) - as that would be the logical conclusion of taking such linguistic offence

Its perfectly possible for a man or woman to have breast cancer (eg arising from breast tissue) No such thing as 'chest cancer' but a tumour arising from the chest wall is possible in either sex: but would be of an entirely different origin and composition (perhaps cartilaginous, bony, muscular) as they are (spoiler alert) different organs. Might not matter to the average facebook SJW but to your oncologist and radiotherapist...

Those who say this is Bollocks... Are these male bollocks or female Bollocks?

They'll probably try to ban breastfeeding next because it's transphobic.

In fact they'll probably try to ban babies.

Fucking hell. Women and everything their bodies go through just don't matter to some people do they? What the fuck is next?

Yeah, they can fuck off with the "chestfeeding" crap...

I have a 7 month old baby that I'm breastfeeding. I absolutely will not call it "chestfeeding", because that's not what I'm doing. I'm using my breasts to feed my baby. It's very fundamentally female and I'm not apologetic about that in any way.

Only halfway through page 1 but just had to post Hairy
These phrases "chestfeeding" "female penis" are the magic midget gems that produce peaktrans in droves.

So true but also lol

Those pictures on that web link are just women with masculine haircuts. Pfff.

but if someone asks you to use a certain pronoun, gender term, or yes, even a different term for how they feed their baby, and you refuse or say that it's not worth it, you kinda are

The text means you are a jerk if you don't use a different term.

I very much doubt I will meet any chest feeders but if I do , I'll bear it in mind.

I'm pretty certain I'll meet many women who breast feed and will find "chest feeding" ridiculous.

Does anyone here really think that chest feeding and the redefinition of the English language and men taking over everything to do with women will last?

Is it only me who assumes people will eventually wake up? Occasionally, I fret that it will just become the norm and I will end up, in my dotage, just bemoaning the 'world of today'.

I'm with Jiggly. I have been breastfeeding for six years, twice tandem feeding. I am still feeding DS when he goes to sleep or is teething. For me, this is an achievement and I refuse to call it chestfeeding.

How many people are there who have transitioned and have children ad breastfeed? A tiny, tiny number. It's probably less than 1000 globally. And yet half the world's population is supposed to rename a part of our body in case it upsets them? Fuck off

I find the word 'chest-feeding' triggering actually. It triggers actual rage

Chest feeding
Lady penis
Girl dick
Pregnant man
Gender is biological
Sex is a social construct
XX chromosomes don't mean you are female
Likewise XY for male
Lesbian with a penis
Saying Mr is literal violence
Man means woman

If it wasn't so dangerous, it would be laughable.

FFS - now they are just taking the piss. Another Spartacus here. Call me a TERF - who cares?

Medical degrees must be well out of date by now! How is anybody meant to keep up with all these words changing definitions?

This really does show how farcical it all is.

I'm not altogether onboard with the anti-trans thing that seems to preoccupy this board, but the point at hand here does seem entirely nonsensical

Chest feeding = nonsensical
Man transforming into a woman (or vice versa) = perfectly possible?
That position seems rather nonsensical to me thedancingbear

Calling 'chest feeding' bullshit is not anti-trans, it is anti-bullshit.
HTH.

anti-trans

I think you'll find that what you are characterising as "the anti-trans thing" probably has a great deal more in common with the misuse of English you refer to than you realise.

Using language to redefine and obscure reality is a great deal of what you are reading as "anti-trans".

Feel free to get as upset about that as the rest of us do.

I would imagine that the Tavistock Gender Clinic has figures on its own patients but this would only cover those being treated conventionally in the NHS. However there seem to be more people, particularly transwomen, who aren't receiving medical treatment though they may be obtaining hormones online.

There is no easy way to work out a reliable figure, I'd imagine, Amelia. It's one of the (many) issues with the topic. If you're counting transgender as meaning absolutely everyone under the umbrella then the figure is completely different to the numbers undergoing recorded medical treatment. Not only are the numbers different, the sex ratio changes. Far more girls are attending the Tavistock but, anecdotally, there appear to be far more transwomen than transmen.

The imprecision must drive serious researchers in the field crazy. How can you evaluate a health issue when you don't even know how many people are affected?