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DD's school going co-ed - I'm really annoyed

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SomewhereOutThere · 18/01/2017 10:25

Am I allowed to talk about a private school issue in FC? I know that can be polarising in and of itself, but my particular issue here is about something I feel strongly about as a feminist so I hope this is okay.

We heard yesterday that DD2's prep school is going fully co-ed. (Currently there are a small number of boys up to year 2, a relatively recent change which came alongside an assurance that the school would be staying single sex to 11.) It won't directly affect DD's lessons - boys are being phased in so her year group will remain all girls until she leaves in 3 years. (Though there will be younger boys in her playground which will change the atmosphere I suspect.)

But I'm annoyed that:

  • There was no consultation with existing parents or (seemingly) staff, who were surprised.
  • A four page booklet about the change continually refers to adding extra facilities to be able to absorb two 'genders'.
  • The four page booklet also explains that staff will get extra training to refresh their prior experience/training in teaching co-ed to encompass 'the different ways in which girls and boys learn and their differing interests, strengths and weaknesses'. Makes me feel like there will be lots of the 'boys like science/girls like stories' bollocks which is bad for girls and boys.
  • Most of all, in the whole 4 pages the fact that many girls learn better in an all girl environment, and are more likely to pursue STEM subjects, is not addressed! Nor is the fact that there will now be 3 co-ed prep schools in the town the school is in, an all boys school, and no all-girls school.

We chose this school back when my elder daughter was a toddler because I wanted an all girl environment. DD1 was able to be her zany self at this school - she's maths mad and that was massively encouraged, as was sport - she got into one there that she now plays at a county level. She moved on to an all girls senior school in a nearby city brimming with confidence and loves being just with girls. It makes me sad that the governors don't seem to give any weight to the fact that for over 100 years this school has offered that to girls.

Oh, and as they say themselves, they have an all time high of pupils enrolled. So they are 'doing it from a position of strength'. So I have no idea - despite the 4 pages - why they feel it necessary. Something about the needs of our future demographic after engaging consultants to research the strategic future. It must be right then, since a consultant says so. Hmm Nice to know that's what fees have been being spent on. (I say that knowing all about consultancy bullshitting to justify a high fee, since I work in a similar field myself!)

I feel like moving DD2 into the nearby city, since it is clear the new (male) chair of governors at her school doesn't believe in and support the importance of an all-girl education, which is my primary reason for paying private school fees. I've contacted the girl's schools this morning. But it'll mean a massively long journey for her on public transport, and might just be too disruptive at this stage - something the school is counting on, I suspect. Gah!

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SomewhereOutThere · 18/01/2017 10:52

If it was to combat low pupil numbers I could understand it, totally.

But the school is almost at capacity in terms of current pupils. They have a policy of stopping actively recruiting numbers for a year group once classes hit 16, and that no class can go over 20. This results in 2 class-year groups apart from occasional bulge year groups when they need 3, and they also go to 3 smaller classes for year 5 and 6.
Year 3 and 4 have 2 classes of 18ish each, currently. So next Sep year 3 will be going to a 3 class intake, they assure us. I suspect they might end up with 3 v small classes! But they obviously feel that with the school bank balance so healthy at the moment, they can afford to absorb the extra staff and building costs until sufficient boys are attending.

The school has a large site so it seems to be about finding enough pupils to enable it to grow massively (there is a strategic building plan alongside it which appears to show space for future 4 class intakes).

I didn't sign up for a large mixed prep school. That's on offer elsewhere and not what I wanted. I chose a smallish all-girl school and it saddens me this now won't be on offer in the whole southern half of my county.

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Cosmia · 18/01/2017 10:44

I (think) that we got the same email yesterday too and feel equally unsettled by it as I think it goes against the whole ethos and USP of the school. But, honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Am pretty sure that it going to take a while to take effect, if indeed it does, as I can't see the attraction for parents to keep their sons there (speaking as one who has a son there who will definitely be leaving in year 2). It simply doesn't make sense to have boys there after a point, and I totally agree with the lack of awareness of the impact that boys have on girls' education.
Certainly doesn't inspire confidence, particularly with the new head coming in....

If we aren't talking about the same school then it must be the day for schools making big announcements!

EdithWeston · 18/01/2017 10:35

The boys prep near us started to admit girls and provoked the same reaction from parents who had specifically chosen single sex.

It happens, I'm afraid, and it's usually because of the basic reality of attracting enough pupils to the school. Better a change than a closure.

midcenturymodern · 18/01/2017 10:32

I would be annoyed too, but in reality it might not happen. If you were looking for a prep school for your ds which would you choose? One of the established co-ed schools, the boys school or the ex girls school that can't give you any idea if your ds will be the only boy in the class or not.

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