The effect of porn on teenage boys and young men

Great - glad i was paying attention ! Btw - i wasn't suggesting men would be the ones kept in the containment areas - i was imagining what the world would be like if it were not for sex being the thing that erm...brought the sexes together.

Is that what's going to happen if we do something about porn?

I'm sure they will be able to grow children outside of a womb in a few decades time. What would the world look like if the sexes had no interest or need for each other ?

Absolutely, girl. You've got it right. That's exactly what feminists want. No man to ever have sex with a woman ever again. All children conceived by artificial insemination. Probably with sperm harvested from men kept in special containment areas for the purpose.

FFS.

Absolutely Beach, and with the average age that boys first see porn being around 8 years of age, you've got to get to them earlier and earlier.

Maybe men will stop pestering girls and women for sex because they will be jacking off with robotic transwomen....

Probably a completely alternative thread - but can anyone else imagine a future where boys/men use technological masturbatory aids rather than real women ? Supposing men ever did have no sexual interest in real women, i rather get the impression that this would be seen by many on here as a good thing ? Would it be a bad thing ?

You've got to get them....

Me too.

God knows what the boys (if my daughters are het) that they will explore their sexuality with will have been exposed to. Mine are 10 and 12 and we have already had to speak quite a lot about porn as the eldest has been shown it on a phone at school and both have encountered boys at school giggling over porn and making references to it in their interactions with girls.

We had already talked about prostitution (we live in France and the word "pute" or whore is chucked about a lot by children and adults). I described porn as "filmed prostitution" and nowt to do with happy healthy sexuality to my daughters and I could see the light bulb come on in my eldest's head (youngest not quite there yet).

Eldest said she said to one of the boys at school that they were "watching filmed prostitution" and she said he was a bit shocked by that. You've get to get them young though before they are desensitized.

Is the proposed UK ISPs option in thing going ahead?
DH and I have worried about the issue of porn availability for a long time.

But yes, typical it only becomes a problem when males begin to be affected.

Absolutely, Beachcomber.

I wonder how they will expect us to sort it out for them?

I have two daughters and between this and TRAs I feel like crying alternatively in anger then frustration. I really do fear for their future.

MrsGWay, yes.

It's harming girls and women in porn and harming females at large as they are being objectified and women hating rape and abuse culture supporting material is being diffused on a massive level. Nobody gives a shit.

It's harming boys and men because it's affecting their ability to get it up. Oh no, what can we do, quick somebody do something about this new and pressing problem. This is unacceptable!! What is the world coming to?!!

What's been shocking to me is how it's gone from being a seedy top shelf magazine type of thing to mainstream. Young girls (apparently) happy to post naked images of themselves on reddit etc for no other reason that to get nice comments and "likes".

If this continues I can easily imagine a (not too distant) future where sophisticated life like sex robots, and immersive VR porn will also be routine and acceptable. I'm can imagine that it'll reach the stage that men would prefer to have sex with robots than actual women (probably not in my lifetime).

Indeed. The technologisation of sexual culture is fascinating, though terrifying. Sex is being completely dehumanised and depersonalised.

Much focus is on the consumption of porn, but what is even more perturbing is the 2.0 platforms that problematise the boundary between user and consumer. When I worked at a school there were countless incidents we had to respond to involving children who had created sexualised images and videos of themselves that ended up being circulated online - where they could be reduplicated infinitely and would remain forever. Tragically, one boy attempted suicide. How awful, weird and lurid is that?

Also it's not just boys. More and more girls and young women especially are habitual consumers of porn as well as amateur producers. As you say, self-validation comes sexualised selfies getting 'likes' on Reddit.

This cyber-porn culture will change everything - possibly even human nature itself. All the old moral, generational and legal structures that used to govern the expression of sexuality are being twisted out of recognition.

And this is all so a load of porn barons and tech oligarchs can get filthy rich.

I agree with Bertrand upthread. For years the impact porn has on girls has been highlighted but ignored. Now that it has been realised that it is negatively effecting boys they may do something about it?

Obviously lack of understanding of consent, anal rape and the physically damaging consequences to young girls wasn't important enough. (Just one example.)

The research suggests that porn is damaging to brain development and response to sexual stimulus so I don't know if educating people about porn and relationships will help. It suggests to me there is not a safe way for young people to watch porn.

Yes. It is very concerning. It's a shame that feminists weren't listened to when they predicted this and when they were tirelessly repeating that pornography is harmful hate speech. If you repeatedly expose people (especially young people) to sexually stimulating sex propaganda you will affect their brain development, sexuality and their views on sex. Whodathunkit??

What's been shocking to me is how it's gone from being a seedy top shelf magazine type of thing to mainstream. Young girls (apparently) happy to post naked images of themselves on reddit etc for no other reason that to get nice comments and "likes".

If this continues I can easily imagine a (not too distant) future where sophisticated life like sex robots, and immersive VR porn will also be routine and acceptable. I'm can imagine that it'll reach the stage that men would prefer to have sex with robots than actual women (probably not in my lifetime).

I do have very strong feelings about porn and the manner in which it has shaped lads' perceptions about girls.

Unfortunately I don't seem to have enough self- confidence to raise this subject with my son.

I guess I just hope he doesnt look at it.

Chatting with girl friends it seems I am def not alone in feeling inhibited about discussing this subject.

Not heard it, but thought I'd add this in to the mix

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0441whb

Tyger Drew-Honey's parents made porn and this is him investigating the affects of readily available porn.

As someone up-thread said, in the past it was the odd copy of Mayfair being passed around at school. Now the darkest, most degrading porn is accessible from a mobile device which almost all children have from around the age of 11.

God only knows what impact that will have on their sexual development.

We should ALL be worried about how much porn is around and the ease of which it can be accessed. It doesn't do ANYONE any good imo. If consenting adults want to access it on an occasional basis that's their perogative but I think this current generation are way past that. It's far to easy to find and access and the stuff they are accessing is NOT in any way good or healthy.

I just feel very sorry for teenagers/young adults now. Porn is ruining something which should be amazing.

That is really interesting research. The nature of porn also probably means the exploring with each other bodies that happened when I was a teenager (and older - before it got boring!) is less likely to happen. Trying to copy porn rather than trying how to figure it yourselves may add to this problem. Maybe add sexting as well which reinforces the visual aspect of arousal. I am scared for my daughter and nephews too.