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Uni's warned over 'snowflake' demands.

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FriendofBill · 08/01/2017 16:16

Hi all,
Saw this article in the telegraph & thought of you.
First became alerted/concerned over the Tara Hudson prison lunacy.
At least there seems to be some kind of push back here?
Surprised to see an article anyway

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/08/universities-warned-snowflake-student-demands/

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Mrsfrumble · 08/01/2017 17:37

This New Yorker article alarmed me when I read it last year. Demanding trigger warnings on Greek Mythology?? Confused

It makes sense that since Higher Education in the USA has always been a commodity the situation would be even more extreme.

Mide7 · 08/01/2017 17:37

I think times have changed. Uni used to be about being taught to think independently but it's now about getting a job. In my opinion young people don't go to uni to be "challenged" they go to get a name on their cv to open doors.

Bobochic · 08/01/2017 17:35

I recently removed my DD from a paid-for EC activity where she was making no progress and was unhappy. I investigated, concluded that the whole concept was based on a false premise (and that learning was not going to happen before that was addressed and rectified) and withdrew my DD. Consumer behaviour. Why universities should be immune from this is unclear to me!

DailyFail1 · 08/01/2017 17:32

Xenophile - you didn't even learn how cite correctly at uni Hmm

Xenophile · 08/01/2017 17:31

You go to uni to become successful 'in the system' and as it's as much a retail system as it is a learning one, why shouldn't students get what they want?

Oh, do be brief. If that was your experience of university, then you weren't doing it right.

PinkIsRad · 08/01/2017 17:30

grumpmitchell = link above addresses you, too. Just because you pay for education does not mean you are now a consumer of a good or service. Education, even paid for, is not a commodity.

PinkIsRad · 08/01/2017 17:27

Mide7 "Students are paying a lot of money for their "education" why shouldn't they be satisfied?"

www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/07/12/law-professor-responds-students-who-complained-about-her-black-lives-matter-shirt

DailyFail1 · 08/01/2017 17:22

You don't go to uni to think independantly. You become an entrepreneur to do that. You go to uni to become successful 'in the system' and as it's as much a retail system as it is a learning one, why shouldn't students get what they want?

grumpmitchell · 08/01/2017 17:17

So busy ranting there I didn't spell check - commodify, not commodity.

grumpmitchell · 08/01/2017 17:14

This boggles my mind. What did the government think would happen when they chose to commodity HE? They have turned an education into something students are forced to 'buy' and then they wonder why students feel that they have a right to a service. If the government wants universities to be paid for then this is the result. We are taught to expect good service, we are taught that choice equals a rising of the bar and of the service we can expect. It pisses me off that people get all prissy when students behave as consumers. Students haven't chosen to be consumers of education. That has been forced upon them. The patronising concept of the 'snowflake student' is a direct result of the government's greed and desire to commodity education.

MissBattleaxe · 08/01/2017 17:09

Students are paying a lot of money for their "education" why shouldn't they be satisfied?

That attitude is part of the problem. Students and parents are behaving like customers not people who are being taught to think independently and to make sacrifices in order to acheive goals of self improvement.

Mide7 · 08/01/2017 17:06

Students are paying a lot of money for their "education" why shouldn't they be satisfied?

HermioneWeasley · 08/01/2017 17:04

Chicago university sent a letter to all its new starters explaining it wasn't a safe space, and the purpose of education was to be challenged.

I guarantee they will turn out more employable grads, better able to cope with life, than universities that pander to this bullshit

0phelia · 08/01/2017 17:02

University now seems to be all about how to learn about "me me me".

0phelia · 08/01/2017 17:01

It reminds me of Sussex university (home of lgbtqietc equality) recently banning sex-based pronouns. No he or she, strictly "they".

www.sussexstudent.com/democracy/policies/gender-inclusive-language/

Quote from link:
gender neutral language must be used in all areas of the student union

Special snowflake alert!

OurBlanche · 08/01/2017 16:44

Mmm! I am not entirely certain what education is for these days.

"The function of education is to teach one to think intensively and to think critically. Intelligence plus character - that is the goal of true education." Martin Luther King Jr.

That always seemed right to me. But it has been commodified now, like much else.

"The highest result of education is tolerance" Helen Keller

Something some of today's educational snowflakes should consider!

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