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British 'man' becomes pregnant

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slithytove · 08/01/2017 10:50

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/first-british-man-reveal-hes-9582789

Sorry, it's a mirror link

I don't usually post about this stuff, but it's really annoyed me this time.

Now 'men' can get pregnant? So 'men' will need maternity leave, 'men' will need maternity services, probably somehow different to women's.

Is it just me or does the fact they are calling this person a man instead of a transman, allow men (people born as men) to take even more from women under the trans rights umbrella?

Who would it hurt to call this pregnant person a transman?

I guess we should be grateful this person was born as a woman and is therefore socialised to not put themselves first.

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SuburbanRhonda · 08/01/2017 11:30

He's not a transsexual, though. He's a transman who still has the reproductive organs of a woman, so it's not such a surprise that he's been able to become pregnant.

But, as PP have said, that's not such an eye-catching headline.

sparechange · 08/01/2017 11:28

flogging
I agree... and am even more baffled that the very same people then get up in arms about maternity services saying they offer services to women, because it offends them to be referred to as a woman Hmm
It doesn't offend them to have a man ejaculate in their vagina while they are ovulating, and to go through pregnancy, of course. Just the pointing out that they have to be a biological female to go through any of the above.

qwerty232 · 08/01/2017 11:23

Sure Floggingmolly, but suppose a transexual gets pregnant but decides to identify as a man? I'm not actually disagreeing with you as such, just trying to tease this issue out in the context of patriarchy theory.

I had presumed one of the stated goals of (many) feminists was a society where gender identity is not dictated. I could be wrong there though...

Floggingmolly · 08/01/2017 11:20

Because men can't get pregnant. It's a biological fact.

qwerty232 · 08/01/2017 11:19

But why would you have an issue with calling a pregnant person a man?

Twogoats · 08/01/2017 11:18

He seems like a bit of an attention seeker to me... Hmm

CharlieSierra · 08/01/2017 11:17

Agree Flogging, and also why is it news that an adult biological female is pregnant?

Floggingmolly · 08/01/2017 11:17

I wouldn't have any issue with calling a pregnant person a woman...

qwerty232 · 08/01/2017 11:13

I know 'feminism' accommodates a very disparate array of perspectives, but isn't the general consensus that gender is a social construct and therefore there is no such thing as innate manhood or womanhood? If that is the case then surely it is legitimate to term this man a 'man', a 'transman', a 'woman' or anything else he prefers? Or this isn' t the case and it isn't? I don't know. Just wondering. You can't assert that anatomy isn't destiny (as most, though of course not all, third wave feminists do) and then complain when someone asserts a gender identity that challenges anatomical gender norms.

Presumably there would be complaints if he was termed a woman too?

Floggingmolly · 08/01/2017 11:08

Why would someone who believes they've been born into the wrong body, reject that body and believe they're actually meant to be another sex entirely - decide to get pregnant?
I truly don't get it Confused. By getting pregnant you are fully accepting yourself as a woman, are you not? It's complete nonsense

Seachangeshell · 08/01/2017 11:04

It makes a better headline doesn't it? That's all the newspaper is thinking of.