Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender Documentary on BBC2 Thursday 2100 "Transgender Kids: Who Knows best?"

860 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/01/2017 08:09

Looks like an interesting watch, that does not just accept the trans children or they will kill themselves rhetoric. I just hope the BBC actually do show it and aren't bullied into not showing it.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088kxbw

The blurb:

Around the world there has been a huge increase in the number of children being referred to gender clinics - boys saying they want to be girls and vice versa. Increasingly, parents are encouraged to adopt a 'gender affirmative' approach - fully supporting their children's change of identity. But is this approach right?

In this challenging documentary, BBC Two's award-winning This World strand travels to Canada, where one of the world's leading experts in childhood gender dysphoria (the condition where children are unhappy with their biological sex) lost his job for challenging the new orthodoxy that children know best. Speaking on TV for the first time since his clinic was closed, Dr Kenneth Zucker believes he is a victim of the politicisation of transgender issues. The film presents evidence that most children with gender dysphoria eventually overcome the feelings without transitioning and questions the science behind the idea that a boy could somehow be born with a 'female brain' or vice versa. It also features 'Lou' - who was born female and had a double mastectomy as part of transitioning to a man. She now says it is a decision that 'haunts' her and feels that her gender dysphoria should have been treated as a mental health issue.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
Ifitquackslikeaduck · 12/01/2017 21:45

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BBCNewsRave · 12/01/2017 21:45

Watching on catch up, about 20 mins in. What a load of tripe.

Trans activist: children will die, he's practising conversion therapy...
Zucker: No I'm not.

Thats about it so far. FFS.

Bambambini · 12/01/2017 21:43

Shon - is that Shon Faye?

If so, I've followed Shon on Twitter in the past. Hasn't been Trans long and is a whole see saw wreck - often closing down their account after going off on one. Has mental health issues and can be quite abusive. Shon is a very mixrd up person.

fieldofschemes · 12/01/2017 21:43

It's just so sad that kids are so bombarded with gender stereotypes at such a young age that they can't see the wood for the trees.

Blerg · 12/01/2017 21:42

I'm so conflicted about this topic advice and I've thought of myself as accepting but Zucker's and Singh the only ones not to see gender as interests and appearance only. Or at least in the edit.

HalfShellHero · 12/01/2017 21:38

Surely giving children puberty blockers is considered abusive? So disturbing...

fieldofschemes · 12/01/2017 21:34

I hope they go on to explore how robust those suicide stats are.

Thelilywhite · 12/01/2017 21:33

Zucker seems like a sensitive psychologist talking sense based on scientific research.

Blerg · 12/01/2017 21:31

Thanks ItsAll

fieldofschemes · 12/01/2017 21:31

What's with all the black and white 1950's stereotypical boy/girl imagery segments too. Hmm

Thelilywhite · 12/01/2017 21:29

Agree. Camps horrific. Its the ultimate dystopia

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/01/2017 21:25

And oh my god so much of the footage is around makeup and performing gender.

I was just about to post how disquieting I found the amount of make-up the summer camp kids were wearing. I find US beauty pageants equally distasteful. It's sexualisation. Urgh.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/01/2017 21:25

Re Zucker, this is long but good

nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/02/fight-over-trans-kids-got-a-researcher-fired.html

I don't think it is mentioned in the above article but he has also suggested that autism could be a.factor.

OP posts:
fieldofschemes · 12/01/2017 21:23

Not a 'typical boy' does not equal a woman. Maybe with more gender critical psychologists and less Dr Spack's in the world young people might feel less need/pressure to mutilate themselves.

Also 'transgender camp' and 'running like a girl' purlease!

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 12/01/2017 21:21

I've typed and deleted so many tweets and replies .... why should we/I be so scared?

Blerg · 12/01/2017 21:19

And oh my god so much of the footage is around makeup and performing gender.

Blerg · 12/01/2017 21:16

Can someone summarises what Zucker's approach actually was? I had to go and check the baby.

fieldofschemes · 12/01/2017 21:15

zucker practising conversion therapy...oh the irony...

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2017 21:13

Oh and #kidsknowbest is being used by hostile tweeters.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/01/2017 21:11

Slightly missing the point, but I really like the Mary Jane shoes the kid is walking around in in the dressing up filler shots.

Butterymuffin · 12/01/2017 21:10

Twitter is already awash with hostile tweets. #BBCthisworld is official hashtag it seems, but #transkids also being used.

Twogoats · 12/01/2017 21:09

"I'm a trans woman myself!" -Shon

No shit!

Datun · 12/01/2017 21:06

Goddddd - they are already conflating sex with gender. 30 seconds in

Oblomov16 · 12/01/2017 21:06

Will sky+ it.
Am very troubled by the whole transgender phenomenon.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/01/2017 21:06

Yep.

Poor Warner. It's OK to like less masculine activities and fancy boys and still be a boy.