Third wave feminism

I think that the people of Aleppo, all the people of Aleppo, wanted to be free to live until tomorrow. Anything beyond that, including equality for women/LGBT/those struggling in the rest of the world, probably look like a luxury when your home is destroyed and you fear for your life and that of your family 24/7.

I'm not sure what this woman's views have to with feminism, 3rd wave or otherwise.

Quencher - everything about your post makes utter sense and I agree with you. However, I'm not sure how you extrapolated that from what the OP wrote about which was "as a black woman she didn't need to educate herself, and that people only care about the Syrian conflict and the staggering number of civilian deaths because they are white and she wanted to know if the Syrian civilians wanted freedom for " the black folk trans folk and genderqueer folk ". Obviously that is out of context and was paraphrased by the OP, but it makes far less sense than what you wrote.

Way back in the second wave I can remember a talk by a black woman from South Africa (during the Apartheid regime). Her focus was on the oppression of black people and when she was asked about the oppression of black and white women in SA, and about the oppression of black women by black men (both of which she mentioned briefly) her response was 'race is the primary oppression and I will work with my brothers first' (that was a paraphrase btw). I always wondered if I would have agreed with her if I was in her shoes.

Growing up very working class I mixed in socialist revolutionary circles as well as feminist circles. I never really found a home. The feminist circles were terribly middle-class and the socialist ones were openly sexist (come to think of it they were a tad middle-class too).

Interestingly, I've been pondering posting a similar post to the OP because this whole issue of intersectionality confuses me on a few levels. I've also noticed that it is something that seems to be mainly connected with feminism - as in there is more emphasis on feminism taking account of trans, disabled, race (etc.) oppressions than there is on other social movements / theories of oppression taking account of sex (women). That's been my experience anyway.

For a black woman you would think she would know better but she might be talking out of frustration. To call everyone who disagrees with her racist is a bit daft. Actually, I have had a thought about it and am slightly going to change that statement. Technically, she is not daft and to some degree has a point. I think that women in Syrian are being helped more or talked about more because of their geography. It's more political and slightly racial bias. I don't know whether she was pointing it out in regards to women in Yemen. Most people don't even know that war in Yemen is probably worse than Syria. The weapons being used are British, we are friends with Saudi Arabia and there is more to gain in Syria. Those women will die without anyone of knowing and speaking for them. Where do you start? It's the media that gives people a voice and they are not getting one. They get a snippet in the news and it's the women. We are not seeing dead children, which means people won't care that much.

I could say the same thing in regards Eritrea and you can easily see the differences in reporting when it comes to the war and Calais or the refugees around Europe.

I have always thought that western feminism is selective and probably she meant in a similar way.

I can't actually comment on the other groups she mentioned.

I've never understood third wave feminism, nor felt the impetus to leave the second wave :).

Is this "black woman" who she says she is? Is she "she" at all? I've got a nasty cynical mind about discussions on the internet, when people make claims about who they are. Me, I'm nobody special, not worth anyone's attention.

Third wave makes it sound legitimate.

It's not feminism - it includes centring men and putting their needs above women. It's total bullshit.

For a black woman you would think she would know better but she might be talking out of frustration. To call everyone who disagrees with her racist is a bit daft.

Did she say anything else? What sort of black people was she talking about and from where? Was it just a sweeping generalisation of all black people or is she relating it to wars in the sub Saharan Africa?

That has got nothing to do with waves of feminism but more about racism and how the world works really.

Feminist have always disagreed with each other.

Did she say what sort of feminist she is?

What a stupid woman. I have no time for that, it infuriates me.

I think that any feminism that doesn't centre women isn't feminism at all and there is certainly a lot of that about nowadays.

I wonder why you thought her views were representative of third wave feminism? She is one person, surely.