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Women's March London 21st January

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user1481714646 · 14/12/2016 13:55

In solidarity with women's marches across the globe on 21st January there will be a march in London, ending up at Trafalgar square.

It is a show of numbers to condemn many harmful attitudes towards women, minorities of race and religion, LGBTQA+ peoples and survivors of sexual assaults.

These issues will not go away by this march, but it is to remind to the global audience that they are prevalent and not enough is being done to curb harmful rhetoric and actions against these people's.

www.facebook.com/womensmarchlondon/

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/01/2017 11:40

Beyond - and yet somehow 'misgendering' is Actual Violence and that is not.

seafoodeatit · 21/01/2017 10:58

I find the whole thing very upsetting and it really sets off my anxiety so I try not to think about it. That facebook comment is not an isolated incident, everywhere the genera discourse is so ridiculous that it's hard to tell what's going on anymore, I feel like I've stepped into alternative reality.

BeyondCanSeeTheEmperorsBellend · 21/01/2017 10:54

Oops

Women's March London 21st January
BeyondCanSeeTheEmperorsBellend · 21/01/2017 10:54

I've seen quite a few other individuals on twitter though.

Here's a personal...favourite.

Datun · 21/01/2017 10:53

A march for all women, including men, but excluding women who think men aren't women.

It's almost impressive.

Bambambini · 21/01/2017 10:44

No - they are saying that as Terf's are evil, bigoted haggish women (who disagree that a man can be a woman if he says he is) - then any woman who who doesn't want males in their changjng rooms, loos, prisons, sports etc - should be banned and a soeech shoukd be issued to say they are banned.

That is just one individual though.

Xenophile · 21/01/2017 10:23

Countess, that person believes that people they designate as being TERFs are not women.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 21/01/2017 08:52

I wouldnt mind basil

But i dont like vaginas enough to be a feshist

I rather get the feeling that mine has betrayed me on a number of occassions and i am a bit annoyed with it Grin

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/01/2017 08:32

Phoenix - it's ambiguous - I think they meant TERFs are not welcome not TERFs are not women. Though the latter would fit with the 'terfs are just transmen who are scared to admit it' and 'transwomen are more woman than you/us' that I have seen many times elsewhere.

ICJump · 21/01/2017 08:08

I ended up going to my local one. I was disappointed. So so many men. Being manly. Urg

BeyondCanSeeTheEmperorsBellend · 21/01/2017 08:03

I'm torn now between 1) not going because I don't see the point and don't want to be associated with that lot and 2) going just to pee off the TRAs. Wink

Unfortunately my kids have tonsillitis so the decision has been made for me...

AskBasil · 21/01/2017 07:37

"It seems bloody obvious to me that lesbians like vaginas"

Ah well according to trans-doctrine, what that means is that you are being biologically essentialist and reducing women to their vaginas. Also, you are a vagina fetishist.

Funnily enough, they don't call heterosexual men vagina fetishists, or gay men penis fetishists. It's only women who get insulted and accused of being bigots, for having sexual preferences and believing that we have the right to set sexual boundaries, just as men do.

PhoenixJasmine · 21/01/2017 07:17

Did that link really say "transwomen are women, TERFs are not".

Eh?

What if I don't identify as a TERF even if they say I am one? What if I identify as a gender critical woman? Is that enough? Confused

I feel really, really sad this morning. A global 'women's' march, for 'women's' rights (perhaps, depending on who is tweeting) and it is specifically excluding women.

We are well and truly down the rabbit hole.

EBearhug · 21/01/2017 03:25

I dont really get the whole "lesbian wont have sex with trans woman" thing

It seems bloody obvious to me that lesbians like vaginas

I don't get it either. For one thing, surely anyone has the right to refuse sex with another person for any reason?

Even if you prefer sex with one type of genitals rather than the other, that doesn't mean you are going to be totally indiscriminate about it, and will sleep with anyone just because they have the preferred genitals. I might find someone who ticks absolutely every single box I have in a list of preferred physical and intellectual characteristics, and I still am free to say, "no thanks," for any reason I like.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/01/2017 03:06

Although I see there is a march now in my home town that I can also not go on.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/01/2017 02:46

I still don't know who is actually organising this march.

Bambambini · 21/01/2017 00:45

Thought this march was to bring folk together

Women's March London 21st January
RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 20/01/2017 23:36

I dont really get the whole "lesbian wont have sex with trans woman" thing

It seems bloody obvious to me that lesbians like vaginas

I can understand being upset if you have gone the whole hog and have a neo vagina (have i got that right?....probably not)

But i think that probably just shows that they dont appreciate a good vagina...

chuffingtrain · 20/01/2017 23:02

Missed

chuffingtrain · 20/01/2017 22:56

user1481714646 you pissed off the P for pedophile !

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BeyondCanSeeTheEmperorsBellend · 19/01/2017 19:52

Wish they'd make up their minds, these totally-nothing-to-do-with-Trump marchers...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/guest_posts/2832360-Guest-post-Im-marching-because-Trumps-presidency-will-affect-us-all?

booklooker · 19/01/2017 19:45

I am confused:

The march is starting in Grovesnor Square (aka the US Embassy)

It is taking place on the day of Trump's inauguration

It wants to be seen as somthing much larger than an anti-Trump thing.

Yeah, the media will pick up on that!
Very naive organising.

No way I would go.

BeyondTheStarryNight · 19/01/2017 09:03

I've certainly seen TERFy signs on Facebook. Lolz.

MercyMyJewels · 18/01/2017 21:37
Grin