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anti feminist on women & equalities committee

109 replies

Lorelei76 · 13/12/2016 14:32

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/philip-davies-women-equalities-committee-feminist-zealots-a7471901.html

the number of times I've had to check the date reading the news lately.....

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TitaniasCloset · 15/12/2016 17:35

Really great comments up above. Yeah I have started to thing that because things are easier now for most educated middle class women they just selfishly assume its this way for all and feminism has done its job so why do we need it? But things aren't moving forward for the poorer women in our society and all this austerity crap affects women more than men. Let alone what's happening to women all around the world.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 15/12/2016 14:26

I don't understand what's happening in the world these days, or why so many women are so complacent

I personally think life is fairly good for a decent number of British women. If you are middle class, well educated and haven't had kids yet or are child free you do actually have a lot of opportunities in the U.K.
Maybe that's where complacency sets in, for a lot of middle class women they get on pretty well in life till they have kids / need mat leave / expensive child care / have to juggle work & home.

BertrandRussell · 15/12/2016 08:49

Absolutely. They don't have to deliberately act to do women down- they just have to not do anything positive not to.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 15/12/2016 08:46

I mean they don't have like james bond villain meetings where the heads of the main religions, heads of many states, mra groups etc sit around saying "how can we do women down". But actually, it's explicit in many of these parties aims and rules so, they don't need to.

If the Pope and the Isis men and the heads of some European nations and the leading lights of the "alt-right" (fascist) movements and the leaders of places like Mississippi and Saudi Arabia met, they might disagree on some things but it would go without saying, and they would all be in agreement, about where women should be and what should happen to them.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 15/12/2016 08:41

"Is there some mad evil conspiracy underfoot"

Patriarchy!

lol

But actually, true.

BertrandRussell · 15/12/2016 07:52

"Is there some mad evil conspiracy underfoot?"

It's always been the same. But there have always been just enough people on the right side to keep things moving forward -even at a snail's pace. I think that forward movement is under threat. You only have to look on here- a forum of women- and see what happens if anyone expresses a feminist point of view.

TitaniasCloset · 15/12/2016 01:02

I don't understand what's happening in the world these days, or why so many women are so complacent. Is there some mad evil conspiracy underfoot?

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 14/12/2016 23:26

Thing with these MRA types is they don't ever want to actually help men, raise money do anything to help with stuff. What they actually want to do is get women to shut up, they are not pro-men they are anti-women

Got to agree with this. Nothing wrong with campaigning for improvements to - for example men's health. I cannot fathom why he is on this committee.

burdog · 14/12/2016 18:48

You can tell he's anti-women and not pro-men because the committee already has two male members. He's full of crap with his bleating about getting men's views heard.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 14/12/2016 18:23

Thing with these MRA types is they don't ever want to actually help men, raise money do anything to help with stuff. What they actually want to do is get women to shut up, they are not pro-men they are anti-women. The only time they bother talking about bad stuff that happens to men is when women try to raise awareness of things that happen to them. It's pathetic.

amispartacus · 14/12/2016 18:04

Jess Phillips is on the committee. She won't take any mansplaining or 'but what about the men' from him.

tribpot · 14/12/2016 17:48

Mansplainer in Chief. Brilliant.

amispartacus · 14/12/2016 16:09

Apparently "Conservative MP Philip Davies told the BBC that men should not "be excluded from having their views" heard."

Straight white man is worried about having his views heard.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38313555

He also wants: "so if I can bring some common sense to the committee that's surely a good thing. "

tribpot · 14/12/2016 16:01

The "Men First" Committee?

amispartacus · 14/12/2016 15:02

Apparently he wants to rename the committee.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 13/12/2016 21:58

Turkey
Poland
NI and Ireland never got there in the first place
UK our rights have been under attack periodically
Look what's happening in the USA
All getting rolled back
Racist, misogynist, homophobic etc people all coming out of the woodwork and working hard to "correct" society. Put women etc back where we're supposed to be.
Some people say this is the old order not giving up without a fight and it shows they are on the ropes.
I have a more pessimistic perspective.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 13/12/2016 21:56

Castel I do worry that the situation for women in the last 80 years or so in our neck of the woods ie improvement and getting so many rights, will turn out to be just a blip in history.

Castelnaumansions · 13/12/2016 21:52

tribpot Shock Godfrey Bloom
Oh, and do all the UN peacekeeping army type jobs while they're at it. I'm sure there's more,
Wonderful idea 70s A take over could make it no worse.

If you look at what that fool Erdogun is doing to Turkish women's rights now too; in the 1920s, Turkish ( And Russian) women were getting equal rights. Now, Austrian and German fascists are all for Kirche and Kuche too for the female populace.
Maybe we just had our 1920s and didn't know it.

70sDinnerPartyClassic · 13/12/2016 20:59

Mind you I suppose he's upfront about it.

Rather than what happened with Keith Vaz and the prostitution committee thingy.

Maybe they just need to put women in charge of all this stuff. Oh, and do all the UN peacekeeping army type jobs while they're at it. I'm sure there's more.

GardenGeek · 13/12/2016 20:34

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tribpot · 13/12/2016 20:18

So what the hell was the trade off inside the Conservative Party? Alright, you can have May for PM but only if we can put an anti-feminist on the equalities committee? That'll show these bloody women.

Of course, he joins the august company of UKIP's Godfrey Bloom, who was on the European Parliament's Committee for Women's Rights and Gender Equality, which must have been a true delight for the other members. He suggested that they were deliberately introducing legislation to protect women's rights so that small businesses would be unwilling to employ young women and the reason they did this was to ensure there were jobs for themselves when they left the European Parliament.

At least Philip Davies knows what to aim for.

BertrandRussell · 13/12/2016 20:15

Oh well, at least we've never had a Health Secretary who believed in homeopathy. Oh, wait.........

amispartacus · 13/12/2016 20:11

Or someone who is anti science being put onto a Science and Technology committee

Well,, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Tredinnick_(politician)

He was on the health select committee.

And the new person in charge of the US EPA

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/12/donald-trump-environment-climate-change-skeptics

DameDeDoubtance · 13/12/2016 20:01

Bloody hell, has someone declared war and women and not told them. Sad

Castelnaumansions · 13/12/2016 19:46

Thanks for posting this, I saw it. Vile. Wonder if he's mates with Anne Widdecombe who had women prisoners who were giving birth chained during birth ( to prevent them escaping)
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chaining-women-backed-1323238.html
It's the way it is going both sides of the Atlantic. Time to get busy.