Paris Lees article on toilets in Guardian today

Proper arf, Oleannas.

I'm going to tell her that tomorrow.

Now that she has secured employment, for which she is totally able, she should start mucking around. Maybe apply to be in charge of Question Time, feck it, she should ask to be in charge of the Beeb. Yeah, you're right, she'd need a lady cock for that.

Dammit.

I have a friend who's a refugee, black and a lesbian.

She's just been diagnosed with a condition which will affect her mobility.

"Fuck me, you're one of the most employable people in the country! Get out there and apply for the most outrageous job that you're not qualified to have!"

Did she? Eh, no.

She's now the Inclusion Officer at a university.

Fair enough. But, dammit, who'd have dared to turn her down? She doesn't agree with me, that she should have applied to be the editor of Vogue.

I was asked on a job application I made this week if I had ever identified as transgender

That was after asking if I was male/female (I could have chosen prefer not to answer)

So if I had preferred not to answer if I am male or female but answered yes I have identified as transgener (there was the option to not say) how would they know what sex I am

But if I was transgender wouldn't I be applying for the position as a male even though I ever could be

Women do sometimes chose to dress to reflect the fact they are feeling sexy ( apparently we wear skimpier clothing if we go out clubbing when ovulating!), The important point is that the clothing reflects the mood it doesn't create the mood by itself.

Not me. Should have put quotes round that
I don't get aroused, more like I use it as an opportunity to berate myself for not having pert breasts, not having been bothered to go bra shopping, having put weight on, not having been able to successfully breastfeed etc. But of course I'm "cis" so happy with all these thoughts 😳😳

I get sexually aroused when putting my bra on, but that's not because I'm sexually aroused 😳

"I still get erections sometimes when I put on my bra. It's not a fetish,"

Phew. That's ok, then.

No, not autogynephilia. Totally normal to find "being your true, female self" incredibly erotic. Not a fetish. Nope.

It's the gaslighting I can't stand. So some men have autogynephilia, that's absolutely fine, I don't judge them for it. But we're supposed to pretend it doesn't exist or we're bigots. Fuck that.

Oh but it's not autogynephilia. Absolutely not. It's being your true self. And imagining yourself having sex as your preferred gender. Not weird, no sireeee.

Fucking Nora. Sure, many women will wear particular lingerie to try and turn on the man - or woman- in their life. When doing so they might, if confident, think hmmmm I look good. But it's not arousing. The act of putting on clothes in itself is not arousing. Surely being sexually aroused by your own appearance is just raging narcissism

oleannas well, that was an educating little foray

They are absolutely convinced that it's normal to find putting your clothes on sexually astounding. How deluded can you be.

According to the users you can get and maintain erections while on HRT as well, so that clears that one up.

No, I don't want to share intimate space with men who can get erections and are sexually aroused by the thought of themselves as women and dressing as women. If that makes me a bigot I will happily wear the badge

I agree that challenging gender norms can be a type of brave - whether that's a woman refusing to conform to expected female dress codes, or having a shaved type haircut, or choosing to go in to a male dominated career like becoming a miner or mechanic or something, or a man wearing a dress or having long swishy hair or choosing to work in childcare.

But I don't think it's brave to say that you are the opposite sex.

It's because becoming a woman is perceived as a step down for a man, Twogoats. That's what's brave about it. Transmen don't get praised because they up their status.

Sick as fuck, imo. And of course if women can up their status just by transitioning then the oppression of women stops being a political issue that can be named. If we don't like it we can just identify our way out of it. Identity politics entirely eradicates class analysis.

I don't get why it's 'brave' to put on a dress? It implies that there's something shameful about being female.

(Not that wearing a dress makes you female!)

It is strange in that whilst there's a distinct be nice tone, if someone asks opinions on e.g. a dress that shows their stomach badly they will be gently advised on other things to try. But apparently we can't do that to TW

I don't think either of the transwomen I know would ask if they passed. One because she knows she doesn't but transition has helped her suicidal GID, the other because that person knows I'd say no. I keep my opinion to myself but if asked directly I'd give an honest answer.

You're right Hermione. Rachel Dolezal was ridiculed and universally slated for faking "blackness". It isn't any different, and yet...

I think the point about validation is very important, because if more women told the truth to the transwomen they know i.e. no, you don't pass, then I can't help thinking that the whole thing would be less popular. And I think I also used to be in the same makeup/hair group but it must have been before there were any transwomen in it. Sad if it's been taken over

Being nosey teaches you some unforgettable things about the trans community. Some sights require eye bleach. I don't think any woman who investigates trans support sites like Reddit asktransgender can continue thinking that transwomen "just wanna pee". Rampant fetishism and masturbatory fantasy about intruding into women's spaces. The more women witness this the better.

Ok I've been nosey as i'e been awakened to the trans debate and I have had a look on Reddit and trans on line groups - also some Twitter and FB profiles. The amount of deluded narcissitic self obsession is pretty extreme. The women I know, just don't act like this - posting endless attention seeking selfies.

Exactly, it's a fetish.

There is no way to be a woman except to be one.

If white people blacked up and started singing "mammy" because they "felt black" they would be (rightly) slated. How is this different?