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Mansplaining in Westminster

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OlennasWimple · 20/11/2016 22:28

Just read this article that says that Theresa May is not impressed with the mansplaining she has come across from a few Whitehall mandarins Grin

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YonicProbe · 22/11/2016 17:09

I do agree, DrDre.

Corbyn seems dug in for the long haul, though.

OlennasWimple · 22/11/2016 16:23

Agree DrDre - and it feels like they are further from that point than they have been for a long time

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DrDreReturns · 22/11/2016 16:21

The point is YonicProbe Labour have never elected a female leader. They have had interim female leaders, but the party / unions have never voted a woman into the leader's job. It's about time they did.

Xenophile · 22/11/2016 12:38

Apparently Phillip Davies has said that men are in danger of losing their voice. Must be shit for him, filibustering bills to help tenants, hospital workers and visitors and teaching CPR in schools in that majority male workspace he's in. My heart actually bleeds.

KnittingPearl · 22/11/2016 12:06

Ruth Davidson? I don't know as much about her as I'd like, but I'd rather her than quite a few of the current crop (of all parties, but especially Tories).

growapear · 22/11/2016 08:18

I agree with you Tigers - on that subject she is right. I am still cynical about her though.

TigersOfAlexpolis · 22/11/2016 06:22

I don't know about Alex Salmond. But I don't see any politician besides Nicola Sturgeon standing up for the rights of women from NI. Why should they not have the same rights as the rest of the UK? Otherwise what is the point of the united state?

growapear · 21/11/2016 22:15

I feel obliged to point out also as a Scot, that Nicola Sturgeon isn't really left wing. She and her party made a massive lurch to the left fairly recently in (my opinion) a cynical manoeuvre to win over the scottish electorate by stealing the ground labour used to be on. It wasn't that long ago Alex Salmond was on the radio banging on about what a "light touch" an independent Scotland would be.

OlennasWimple · 21/11/2016 21:32

Margaret was temporary leader because she knew it would be temporary, IYSWIM. I don't think she stood for leader , or wanted the PM job.

Yvette Cooper and Angela Eagle have the misfortune of being towards the top of the pile at a time when the Labour party is so far away from being in power it's almost laughable. (Though I hope that Yvette Cooper will lay low and try to be leader and thence PM in the future)

Nicola Sturgeon couldn't ever be PM, as she would explode in a paroxysm of contradictions by being the leader of a united country that she is fighting to separate Grin

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/11/2016 20:47

I would vote for her. Apart from the small matter of not being Scottish. And not voting in the UK

I can vote for her- the only circumstances I would vote for her would be if the only other candidates were UKIP, BNP or another manifestation of Tommy Sheridan's bonkers Scottish socialist party.

MysticTwat · 21/11/2016 20:44

The! Ffs

MysticTwat · 21/11/2016 20:44

Just googled it and 4 days ago news says quiet tge opposite!

Its was good few months ago, whatever I read.

But glad to read tge new headlines

MysticTwat · 21/11/2016 20:41

Sure I read somewhere that Nicola Sturgeon, is /would like to bring in abortion laws like NI.

Just for that I wouldn't vote for her.

TigersOfAlexpolis · 21/11/2016 20:35

I cant believe no one has mentioned Nicola Sturgeon.

A prominent female politician who is not a Tory.

First Minister of Scotland.

I would vote for her. Apart from the small matter of not being Scottish. And not voting in the UK.

YonicProbe · 21/11/2016 19:02

Cherie Blair, Oleanna?

Grin

Margaret Beckett was deputy leader for a,while and temporary leader between smith and Blair.

Yvette cooper? Angela Eagle?

Ellie7878 · 21/11/2016 18:41

I totally, totally stand corrected. I thought he was a Tory for some reason!

Excuse my ignorance.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/11/2016 18:40

Although both of them were leavers.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 21/11/2016 18:35

David Lammy is a Labour MP. I assume Ellie is confusing him with Adam Afriyie or Kwasi Kwarteng.

YokoUhOh · 21/11/2016 18:33

Ellie he's a Labour MP

OlennasWimple · 21/11/2016 18:32

You said The only Tories I can remotely stomach at the mo are Anna Soubry, David Lammy and Philip Hammond., suggesting you thought DL is a Tory MP. Which was confusing, as he is a Labour MP

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Ellie7878 · 21/11/2016 18:31

Yes. As I said I can only 'remotely' stomach him at the mo because he's a staunch Remainer. That is as far as it goes.

There are no admirable Tories. Not since - at a push - Harold MacMillan.

OlennasWimple · 21/11/2016 18:26

Do you mean David Lammy (Labour MP for Tottenham since 2000)? Or someone else?

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Ellie7878 · 21/11/2016 18:16

Only because he's speaking out against the populist right and Brexit. I am aware of his legacy. I do hate all Tories, and am being ultra-charitable here.

OlennasWimple · 21/11/2016 18:10

I'm trying to think of a left wing female politician who has come even close to being PM... Anyone?

(You need to google David Lammy, Ellie.....)

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domesticslattern · 21/11/2016 18:06

David Lammy???

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