Feminisim and small penis jokes

I tried I really did but everyday feminism is pile of wank.
No people should make small dick jokes but I think in general it's not feminist that do it but rather men.

If I am going to insult a man I will call him a cuntless wonder.

Anyway.

I have heard many people use 'small dick' to describe the behaviour of men who exhibit hypermasculinity in oafish or exaggerated ways.

Here is an example

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567945/Little-pinkie-road-safety-campaign-backfires.html

(Note how the man in the article was merely insulted - he then took it upon himself to be violent to the woman concerned - men might fear humiliation, women must fear their violence).

Note also - I don't think feminists had anything to do with this campaign, and it's clear that the OP has not been able to produce a single example of dem mean feminists laughing at men with small dicks.

That's different from making fun of actual men with small penises, and it only works because of the stock that men put in their own dicks. For example, masculinity is often associated with having sexual prowess and being virile, which is variously expressed as (for example) having a big dick, screwing lots of women (being a 'stud') and being able to get a woman pregnant just by looking at her. I've heard a man who expressed fear about something being referred to as a 'soft cock' (presumably because he's not a real man and can't get it up). I mean even the word 'impotent' means not being able to get an erection and being powerless.

If men with small dicks are tired of being supposedly made fun of then they need to start by challenging masculinity as it is practiced by men and by challenging men's own penile obsessions. Don't blame feminists and down come running to us wanting us to fight your battles for you.

Oh, FFS, I've read the article now.

Transwoman lectures feminists on how mean they are to men. Sigh.

That is not feminism, OP. So I think we might stop blaming feminists for this one. I'd say the main perpetrators of small penis jokes are other men, and probably some women too. Some of those women might be feminists. But the two are entirely unrelated. You're implying (boringly and predictably) that feminism is about putting men down.

It's not.

I have said small penis.

A driver in a fancy sports car was trying to intimidate me to pull over to let him go faster for the two chevrons between me and the car in front.

I may have hypothesised that the car was a penis substitute.

But was I making fun of his penis or his dickish driving?

Can't for the life of me work out why this would be a feminist topic?

I don't support penis jokes (TBH, in general, small or otherwise... body function jokes are the domain of 6 year olds) - but I don't think it's feminisms problem to stop people making them - we're concentrating on the continuous commentary made on women for instance, see the DM sidebar of shame - how many penis size comments are there, vs. comments on women's bodies (generally being 'flaunted')

besides, the author of that article is definitely standing in a glass house - this is an example of their standup : - plenty of misogynist, stereotyped, bigoted opinions there

I have never, in my 40 years of life as a biological female, heard another biological female make a small penis joke, let alone a feminist. In fact, I don't think I have ever heard a biological female make a comment about the size of a man's penis, and I've known some fairly no-holds-barred women.

In my experience, feminists are not remotely interested in men's penis sizes. I am not interested, my female friends are not interested, my female family members are not interested.

God this angers me. The only people I have ever heard make comments about penis size are boys. Jokes and abuse about breasts on the other hand are aimed at us constantly...

Just to be clear, can you give us some examples of the kind of jokes they say?

Tom, have you had people comment on your penis in real life?

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I am really tempted...

It's just being a half decent human being.

If I'm going to insult someone it's for something they chose to do/say/behave 'arrogant asshole' or 'sexist pig' for example - not their penis size, hair colour etc.

I think most of the small penis jokes and comments I've heard have been from men.

Jam and sounds like an awesome diet, Rufus. Don't let the low carbers see..

It's difficult to discuss on the Internet as some men have a fetish for being insulted/belittled and talking about small penises, so women may be cautious to enter into a discussion without knowing the motivation.

As a general principle, it isn't exactly controversial to say no one should be shamed for their body.

Yep i had it right

"They consumed liberal amounts of wine"

In which case i may well be wrong, i might be liberal

Sorry

I'm convinced Everyday Feminism is a really convincing parody. It can't be real, it just can't.

TominAustin - I suggest you spend some time as a woman before you moan about penis jokes - not that I partake in or endorse such things.

Try having every part of your body - from your hair to your cheekbones to your lips to your boobs to your stomach to your arse to your thighs and any cellulite constantly analysed and commented on - and then try living the in whole "women must be attractive, women will be judged constantly on their outward attractiveness" thing before you moan about the tiny penis thing. No interviewer for a job ever said tiny penis thing - however women are constantly judged on their looks.

Everyday Feminism is well known to be a pile of shite. Even if you didn't know that, you have read an article saying penis jokes are bad because they assume only men have penises, and contains the word 'cisgender' and have chosen to take it seriously. You know how people say 'when someone tells you who they are, believe them.'? That can also apply to articles. If it reads like a pile of crap, it is a pile of crap.

I'm not a liberal.

Is the basic premise here 'I hate it when feminists do this (really indefensible) shit to men'?

'Cos um...yeah...but do they? En masse I mean? And because they are feminists?

Shall we ask MN to pop this over in AIBU for you? And change 'feminists' to 'people'?

op ???

Its really difficult discussing this with myself

Apparently i am being really unreasonable

I would also like to know what liberal is

Is it generous ? Ie "rufus is being very liberal with the jam"

I may need to google liberal

I haven't read the articke, but past experience of everyday feminism tells me it will be a load of intestinal contents.

I'm sure you can do better op

Not to be dismissive, but if you think that's the worst insult you could possibly hear, so much so that you feel the need to rally the MN feminists to your cause of eradicating it, I suggest spending some time as a woman online.

You'd then be subjected to a daily barrage of violent and terrifying threats, often the same ones churned out by different people. And when I say people, I do mean mainly men. Threats of rape, specific threats of horrific violence, threats about your children. 'Die in a fire' is a weirdly popular insult lately.

Why don't you expend some of your feministy energy on tackling that, Tom?

I'm not in with "us" either, thank you.

I'm not a liberal either. A discussion on what people mean when they say they are a liberal would be more enlightening than this penis discussion.