Feminisim and small penis jokes

Who said 'set' or 'staple'?

If your offended by small penis jokes going to see Cummings and Schumer puts you at a high risk of hearing one, just avoid most comedians, comedy shows and the internet...

That said your probably more likely to get brought on stage and ridiculed for your political view at a Schumer show.

I found Amy telling a personal anecdote about a big penis blindgossip.com/?p=72666 - although her punchline was more about the suggestion she'd get a 'gaping vagina' - ie humour pointed at herself than at other people.

I have heard her making lots of sex related jokes - she seems to be pretty equal on which genitals she's talking about though - I wouldn't say that small penis jokes were a primary part of her comedy for instance.

I've never heard of Cummings. (Cue penis joke) and I've never heard schumers small penis set.

Don't play dumb, there are a ton of self proclaimed feminist comedians who use those type of jokes, Cummings and Schumer are off the top of my head.

It isn't just feminist comedians either, all comedians do to some extent, and so they should!

'Feminist' comedians who do small penis jokes? Who for example?

I am a bit staggered that regular mumsnet users haven't seen insults about small penises! Honestly it's rife!

I still can't say I think it's something feminists need to be acting on- but I will always jump on it when it comes up
(penis joke-intentional)

Ok, so it's good to hear a mans perspective on 'body shaming' for once, and on the most it's nice to hear some actually sympathy here.

But as I said on other threads to women who were victimising themselves for no reaseon...

'Buck up buttercup!'

Penis jokes are funny, as are women jokes. You cannot instill your OTT emotional stability onto others, if you are hurt by small penis jokes don't go and watch feminist comedians, and avoid people who are happy to laugh at anything for every reason.

That quote just about sums it up:

'Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them'.

Just thinking back to my teens (old gimmer here) and the number of my school friends who found the sexually adnrogynous, gender-bending look that was fashionable then very sexy in a man. Sex appeal is to some extent socially constructed, and very flexible, and ultimately comes down to personality - if you carry off whatever you're doing with a knowing swagger (including wearing eyeliner and a shirt with ruffles of lace at the collar), you'll get away with it.

Fashion in mens bodies changes just as fashion in women's bodies does - just look at how hairy blokes are in 70 movies vs. now (beards excepted).

Slight blokes are pretty fashionable now I thought (I'm too old to be paying much attention to teenage boys, and mine are too young right now) - perhaps it's moved on again?

I think this is possibly where patriarchy and capitalism collide - patriarchy likes everyone to know where they are in the pecking order, capitalism wants you to buy your way up the ladder and always feel dissatisfied (hence, email marketing penis enlargers)

LessThan

It's interesting because when I grew up, experience was that women seem to like "masculine" men, maybe it's all to do with preference - but women like "rugged" men and all these cliches. e.g. I guess what I'm getting it is a small, slight man with no facial hair would probably think of himself as not meeting the "patriarchal standard" - he would have formed this impression whilst at school and seeing how the other boys were more popular with the girls. This is how it was at my school. Surely this state of affairs cannot be entirely blamed on men (or the patriarchy) brainwashing women into thinking they find certain types more attractive than others ? Like I guess women throw themselves at certain types of man, see the way they behave toward celebs etc.

I never heard a women make a joke about a man having a small penis, whether they do it in groups I don't know.

"Whistling in the dark"

YY, that is EXACTLY what it is. When a woman has been treated badly by her boss, for instance, other women will offer up, "I bet he has a tiny penis," because it's the only comfort they can give. I don't like it, not least because it achieves nothing.

I don't think it's unrelated to feminism actually, but only inasmuch as it emphasises women's powerless in some situations - where all they feel they can do to "get back" at a man is hypothetically shame him sexually. So not in the way the OP is getting at.

What do you mean duds ?

if feminists start a worldwide campaign to end penis size jokes will men stop raping and murdering women? Because if that's all it takes I am right there (and why didn't men say so before??)

From women I've heard more of the "it's not size that matters, it's what you do with it" type comment.

Small penis jokes make me uncomfortable because I'm a feminist.

I think feminism has,by now, clearly made the case that PHMT (patriarchy hurts men too) and that the troubles that men face (in this case the fear of not being manly enough) is down to archaic notions of masculinity.

So not something to lay at the door of feminism

And yes, the biggest threat to me is men, and I know also that body shaming or ridiculing doesn't help us move forward with that problem.

i dont really think its up to feminists to fight the fight on penis jokes.

This is slightly off topic Austin but I was amazed on a training course yesterday, in a largely but not solely female environment, when the trainer mentioned the name of an author on the subject and those who knew him started swooning and saying inappropriate things, things that would make me uncomfortable if a group of men were saying them about a woman. I think women, back in the day, used to say these kinds of things for other reasons, reasons that are no longer so broadly applicable, and it needs to be brought to everyone's attention.

I don't know if anyone else has said this on the thread, but it brings to mind this Margaret Attwood quote.

'Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them'.

Klassy

That's a good point about it being ways men shame men.

Birdy

I've seen it used, if a woman on here got street harrassed and was looking fir comfort, someone might say the perpetrators were stupid or ignorant, someone else might say bet they have tiny dicks or bet they would be rubbish in a fight.

Not jokes, though, whistling in the dark.

I've heard the "do you think he's compensating for something" sort of joke - but mainly from my brother quoting Shrek. Aside from that, I can't think of a real life comment from anyone about penis size - I'm not saying it doesn't happen ever, but not in my circles.

IMO it falls into that vile "jokes about prison rape" category, or "man up" and "grow a pair". It says more about the ways that men shame fellow men than women tend to, and would be railed at on Mumsnet. Happy to be contradicted here of course.

Interesting that the article is by someone who perhaps heard/internalised this stuff more growing up with other blokes?

I've seen loads of 'bet he's got a small penis' or tell him 'then he's got a tiny cock' etc etc on mumsnet.

Not said by anyone particularily identifying as feminists I shouldn't think.

I think feminists have bigger problems than the size of your dick, Tom.

To be fair I'm a feminist and I've made small penis jokes.
When I was 13 and before I'd seen an actual penis.
It's clearly a massive problem and we should stoppit right now