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Trans media watch are lobbying mnhq

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BeyondTheHarpy · 17/11/2016 17:35

I know this has already been mentioned in the PL thread, but I thought it might be an idea to bring it to the attention of mners in a thread of its own.

After the PL debacle, there followed a thread in AIBU about toilet. On which this post appeared...
"I'm with you OP and I'm horrified by the transphobia on Mumsnet. I have done some work with Transmedia Watch who are trying to persuade MNHQ to treat transphobia as they would treat any other hate crime. I don't know what MNHQ have against the trans community or why they don't challenge the widespread belief that trans women are rapists in frocks who want to see fannies."

So, yeah, just letting you know that they are (allegedly) on the case with mnhq.

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EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 17/11/2016 19:24

Because male violence & misogyny just pale in comparison to women standing up for our rights, don't they?

CoteDAzur · 17/11/2016 19:20

Miranda: "I'd love to see how either Mermaids or Trams Media Watch are defining 'transphobia'."

My money is on "transphobia" defined as "That one time I went on MN and mean TERFs said I'm male because I have XY chromosomes and a penis".

ElsaAintAsColdAsMe · 17/11/2016 19:19

Mermaids have a bunch of parents who come onto trans threads and back each other up to try and drown out what they perceive as transphobia, they are also mailing MNHQ and sought legal advice I believe. I also read that they are mailing the companies who advertise on here.

Snowshimmer · 17/11/2016 19:16

So how do these organisations plan to stop "transphobia" on MN?

ErrolTheDragon · 17/11/2016 19:14

'the widespread belief that trans women are rapists in frocks who want to see fannies.'

I see no evidence of that being a widespread belief. It's a cheap distortion of the belief that there are some men who under the guise of 'transwoman' will do such things. There are some transwomen who infringe women's rights in other ways.

And then there are transwomen who don't do that, who dissociate themselves from the TA stance and are abused for it - some of those seem to find MN something of a haven. These 'Transmedia Watch' people evidently do not speak for all trans people.

FRETGNIKCUF · 17/11/2016 19:14

What gets called transphobia is laughable.

mirandayardley · 17/11/2016 19:13

I'd love to see how either Mermaids or Trams Media Watch are defining 'transphobia'.

ElsaAintAsColdAsMe · 17/11/2016 19:07

Mermaids also have a campaign on the go to stop 'transphobia' on MN.

AyeAmarok · 17/11/2016 19:06

I specifically asked Justine on the PL thread who had approached whom re: Paris Lee speaking at the event.

This was why I asked! Because I thought there was something strange about it. Justine said MN approached PL. But I suspect that was induced by Transmedia Watch.

ChocChocPorridge · 17/11/2016 19:01

I'll stop talking about it just as soon as transactivists stop offensively parodying women, erasing us, ignoring our right to privacy and safe spaces, and refusing us the right to self-define our own boundaries.

Oh, and teaching children unproven rubbish rather than science, and supporting medicalising them for life over supporting their mental health and body acceptance.

FRETGNIKCUF · 17/11/2016 19:01

Transmedia Watch otherwise known as women erasers are fascists who intimidate women in women's spaces to say "yes you're purty and are more of a woman than me with my vagina and XX chromosomes" and "no male violence doesn't exist if you paint your nails and call yourself Tiffany"

I suspect they are part of the pressure group that got transwomen into the local women's shelter. Cunts.

Hastalapasta · 17/11/2016 18:56

Yup, still Spartacus here too.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 17/11/2016 18:53

Oh come on. You all know all the male violence against transwomen is down to the nasty feminists. We should all be saying sorry and recognising our (literally) bleeding cis privilege.

Scooby20 · 17/11/2016 18:51

Still spartacus.

It's just another show of what their agenda is really about.

Xenophile · 17/11/2016 18:47

Actually exWife, this is new toss. Sorry you can't read.

BeyondTheHarpy · 17/11/2016 18:45

Does a chat board even count as "media"?

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Smartleatherbag · 17/11/2016 18:40

No, we're bored of having women's rights eroded, exwife

NoSunNoMoon · 17/11/2016 18:39

TERF and proud.

GinAndTunic · 17/11/2016 18:38

Still SpartacusAutisticus.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 17/11/2016 18:38

I really would like to make my name christmassy again

But i feel i will be letting the side down Smile

BeyondTheHarpy · 17/11/2016 18:38

Nope :)

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exWifebeginsat40 · 17/11/2016 18:36

and on and on and fucking on. do you people never get bored of reciting the same old toss at each other?

FeedMeAndTellMeImPretty · 17/11/2016 18:32

Karlos If the trans lobby really identified as women - as opposed to being obsessed with invading female space and writing women's experience out of history - wouldn't they be focussing on lobbying instead the numerous sites that host misogynist discourse?

The fact that they focus their energy on a site where women come to express themselves freely speaks tells us what these people are really about.

Flowers thank you for putting this into perspective so perfectly.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/11/2016 18:30

Yy Karlos, disagreement isn't phobia, and calling it that is just part of the long sexist history of trivialising women's words and stigmatising them for daring to argue.
Won't wash. Still Spartacus.

Blueisnotforglue · 17/11/2016 18:28

I am Spartacus