Trans media watch are lobbying mnhq

There was a two hour programme on Radio Wales last night about transphobia in sports. There was no exploration of the actual issues, just a default discussion of how brave people are, etc.

Yawn

If you don't have to wear the dresses, keep your penis, don't have to have any preferences for 'feminine' past times and don't care what happens to women in general, what is it they are bloody identifying with!!!?

What 10%?

Thats all you need to do?

I am so a man

... living as a woman for 10% of the time...

"She has taken some medical advice and has two appointments arranged later this month at a gender identity clinic in London and is hoping she will be able to start on the course of hormones which will be the first steps in achieving a gender reassignment," he said.

"She then hopes this will lead to surgical reassignment but at the moment she is living her life as a woman 10% of the time."

Wonder what prison they will end up in (if at all).

Wonder what happened to the girl and what that story was? I hope that she is being protected ...

But she is a woman now so it's all OK. And you are all bigots.

HTH.

She should be using the ladies as part of her programme.

Late transitioner, convicted paedophile, in custody for possessing photos of naked children. Who will be granted access to children in toilets, changing rooms etc, upon release.

If anyone can tell me I've got that wrong, please do. Because this is doing my head in.

kua

Now setting up a 'support group'. Not sure that the local LGBT community would want to be associated with a convicted pedophile

www.somersetlive.co.uk/transgender-woman-from-wells-talks-about-her-journey-from-man-to-woman-and-the-life-changing-op/story-29767493-detail/story.html

etc etc yup

But, but this never happens....

Not 'really' trans. would have done it with or without ease of access. Cis perverts...etc etc.

I suspect a lot of people assume 'transgender' means surgery, hormones, and no more penis. Big mistake.

Yes... I suppose people think 'transgender' is just the polite version of 'transsexual', like the mealy-mouthed misuse of gender when people really do mean sex.

Yes. I thought this too until fairly recently. Thought the switch to transgender was just a polite way of naming the condition without saying 'sex'. But no, it was a calculated move to attach a bunch of perverts (trans'gender') in with people who actually do have a condition that makes their lives unbearable and seek surgeries and such to help them (transsexual)

m.somersetlive.co.uk/transgender-woman-from-wells-tried-to-get-photos-developed-of-naked-child/story-29924337-detail/story.html

But, but this never happens....

Yes... I suppose people think 'transgender' is just the polite version of 'transsexual', like the mealy-mouthed misuse of gender when people really do mean sex.

Indeed Math, when I talk to my friends they assume that all trans individuals have had bottom surgery.

I suspect a lot of people assume 'transgender' means surgery, hormones, and no more penis. Big mistake.

DD was saying today that she didn't think she had any problems with the whole trans thing - I think because she has no idea how far it's gone.

The problem arises when a transwoman (so born male, identifies as female) insists they are actually a woman, due to an internal feeling, despite keeping all their genitalia (and often remaining attracted to women) wanting all the rights accrued to women (such as they are) to be given to them. With full access to women only spaces, scholarships reserved for women, competing in women's sport.
So I'm trying her with that tomorrow.

But it is all fine, you see.

And if this man were ever to be convicted of something (not convicted of being in a women's changing room, because of course that is all fine and not a crime but shoplifting, say, which is an actual crime) then that man would serve his sentence in a women's prison.

Where he would have more access to vulnerable women that he would on the outside.

And that's also fine.

It's not all going to be fine, is it?

So awful.

And challenging them will be an illegal hate crime...

Exactly maths. So any man, any where, any time with form for any kind of crime, including rape and pedophilia, could identify as a woman, for no reason, with no diagnosis, whilst wearing a three piece suit with a foot long beard, can walk into a shower or changing room with an 11-year-old girl.

The important aspect of transsexual vs. transgender is that 'feeling like a woman' is enough. No surgery or hormones are necessary. Clothing is fine and dandy but someone who feels like a woman could equally present as a typical man. The key to transgender is 'identity' and 'feelings'. Those who have always felt that they lived in the right 'gender' are called 'cis' (whether cis-man or cis-woman.) To be 'cis' is to be privileged. If you have your doubts about any of this, you are a transphobe.

That identity and those feelings are well on their way to trumping the rights of girls and women to our own spaces, and to a legal identity and protection under the law as a class and as individuals that is based on biological fact.

name2change4this

Transsexual I believe, was the old school term for someone who had had a sex change. lived their life as a woman, and were few and far between. Transgender, is someone who feels as though their gender does not match their biological sex. Gender being masculine and feminine.

Feminists have been trying to dismantle gender roles for years because they are harmful to women. They would love to see men being able to act feminine and women act masculine as a matter of course, should they wish to.

Late transitioners like Caitlin Jenner, reinforce the gender role of women, being sexual objects with high heels and make up. Indeed she said the hardest part of being a woman was deciding what dress to wear. Not very helpful.

The problem arises when a transwoman (so born male, identifies as female) insists they are actually a woman, due to an internal feeling, despite keeping all their genitalia (and often remaining attracted to women) wanting all the rights accrued to women (such as they are) to be given to them. With full access to women only spaces, scholarships reserved for women, competing in women's sport.

I thought the terms was transsexual not transgender. Can someone please tell me if they're the same, and if not, then what the difference is.

Females are already losing their spaces. One mtf has successfully sued their LA to be allowed to go to school in the female uniform and to be treated as female within the school.

"Dear VoodooPeople

Thank you for your email to Mr LocalMP. We will convey your views to him ahead of the forthcoming debate.

Mr LocalMP will attend the debate, subject to his other Parliamentary commitments that day.

Yours sincerely
blah blah blah"

Datun wrote - "How come there are 76 genders?"

I think it is referring to 76 of the growing number of gender identities.

Gender identity is becoming less about e.g. "feeling like a woman trapped in a man's body" and more about "feeling like a particular type of woman trapped in a particular type of man". I see no reason why the number of allegedly different gender identities could not eventually equal the total number of people.

Some people think that the confusion over the meaning of "gender" has arisen by people's accidentally loose or lazy use of language. Other people think the meaning has been deliberately distorted, conflated and confused by transactivists and other groups. So, now, gender can mean biological sex and/or gender identity and/or gender role and/or gender hierarchy (men above women because men's gender role gives advantages to men). Irrespective of how this situation has arisen, it's a mess because the meaning of gender is misunderstood far too often. For example, transactivists and gender-critical feminists fight about gender. Often, the transactivists assume the gender being argued about is gender identity only, but to gender-critical feminists, gender is often also gender role or gender hierarchy.

In my experience, feminists know much more about gender identity than transactivists know about gender role and gender hierarchy, but transactivists have much more power to control the terms of the conflict between these two groups of people.

My MP is generally very good, but in this case I suspect that because he is fluffy and liberal he will find my letter to be transphobic, and will ignore