British woman 'arrested in Dubai after reporting rape'

DH is a lawyer and says his colleagues and been talking about this for 2days. Their conclusion was that she is guilty under their law even though we find their law abhorrent. Which it is, of course. He said the best thing would be a massive campaign/public backlash that majorly affected the tourist trade over there. Otherwise they won't give a damn what we think. He's probably right as she's unlikely to get much help from Theresa May as she won't want to upset the apple cart. Look how little (zero) help she's given to Nazanin Ratcliffe!

If Turkey's major party gets its way, then being blackmailed for child rape not only won't be blackmailable, but will actually be legal if they marry their victim.

Fuck's sake Torygraph article.

Really? You should cover different laws in every coyuntry???

Although I think there were convictions in the end for that case.

I watched documentary about the terrible gang rape in India a while ago. A solicitor defending the offenders explained that to be convicted of rape it has to be proven that the woman was respectable (whatever the fuck that means), but respectable women aren't raped because they're respectable therefore the victim in that case wasn't raped because she obviously wasn't respectable. There really is no chance for women in countries like that.

Because UAE still follow the same religion as the rest of Saudi, a place where if a women has been raped it is HER that has committed infidelity.

Ridiculous isn't it? I genuinely hope this woman gets the help and escapes the country.

And of course a paedophile being blackmailed for their crimes are being blackmailed by their victim. Whereas even admitting you had consensual extra marital sex doesn't include a victim.

Germany isn't civilised?

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With regards to Dubai, they are a Muslim city legally, and a city in which websites deemed offensive by the state are illegal. Blonde white women are a real delicacy (maybe wrong word), but they really are too enticing for men to not make a fuss of, which is disgracefull.

Prostitution is rife, and promoted by the government to keep mens urges down, despite not being allowed to look at a naked woman online!

You have to be extremely carefull, recently a guy was arrested in the airport because he slated Dubai online the previous year to visiting.

It does remind us of the real struggles we need to fight against however, and puts into perspective men offering their seat.

And that doesn't work because paedophile activity has no similar defence which extra marital sex should have.

I don't understand the logic behind this law. If she has reported a rape surely the police understand that this was not her choosing to have extra marital sex? Or do they not acknowledge rape in Dubai?

That's a good point. I can't think of an analogy in UK law. The closest would be
reporting you are being blackmailed for something which is a crime. For example a paedophile being blackmailed by their victim.

I often bemoan the situation here (NI) WRT women's rights but I suddenly feel extremely lucky to live where I do. Yes victim blaming still exists (massively) here but at least no one is arrested for reporting a rape. How terrifying.

What's the law regarding rape in Germany?

If she has reported a rape surely the police understand that this was not her choosing to have extra marital sex? Or do they not acknowledge rape in Dubai?

I strongly suspect that her lack of intent doesn't matter to the law there and, yes, they do not acknowledge rape unless witnessed by two men of good reputation. (I remember that men's testimony counts twice as much as women's in those countries, which means that in a rape case, the man will automatically win, since it is highly unlikely that two decent men happen to witness everything without interfering.)

That, or they claim that her reporting the rape was an attempt to deceive them.

When dealing with misogynist males and governments, you have to let go of your preconceived notions that laws are, by their nature fair or just.
Where there is misogyny, common sense no longer matters.

Dubai is not a civilised place.

Nor is Germany, but there are degrees of lack of civilisation ...

I don't understand the logic behind this law. If she has reported a rape surely the police understand that this was not her choosing to have extra marital sex? Or do they not acknowledge rape in Dubai?

That makes me feel physically sick. Fucking morons.

And differences in laws and travel safety should be covered in school, with an emphasis on knowing local laws and differences between laws here and in these terrible places...

I think the problem being the way Dubai is sold as some lavish holiday place. That lots of people have no idea of the culture and laws there.

Yes. As said, my immediate instinct is to blame the woman for being so stupid, but being ignorant is not a crime, it is not even a moral failing (well, unless you vote for Trump, then maybe), so it is really unfair to blame her.

Those who market Dubai as lavish holiday place should be forced to put a warning on it, similar to the warnings on cigarette packages - "Contains loads of misogyny. May cause PTSD, imprisonment and death"

And perhaps the picture of an imprisoned woman instead of the photo of a fancy hotel pool.

Yes, but extra-marital sex is also a crime. Quite the conundrum.

I think the problem being the way Dubai is sold as some lavish holiday place. That lots of people have no idea of the culture and laws there.

Does rape not exist as a crime in Dubai then?

There is a gofundme page for her...
www.gofundme.com/help-zara-2w3hfxg

But that is the point - according to their laws, she has done something wrong.

Yeah what can she expect, stupid woman.

Jeez empathy bypass with some of you.

The woman has done nothing wrong and yet people still find ways to blame her.

clarification, maybe stupid was the wrong word, rather ignorant.