LGBT Talks in School

Today a student in dd's year came out as non binary 😒 dd was again shouted down in biology and this student flipped a table because dd and her were arguing. I'm pulling her out. There is no way she is going to be subjected to this bullshit any longer.

This is ridiculous. Especially denying biology to impressionable kids. DH is going to talk to DSD this weekend as she is y7 so could be the next lined up for this brainwashing.

LGB talks are great. T..not so much.

Would it be easier to communicate in the first instance via email? That way you can choose your words carefully.

Take a 6th form biology textbook with you. Tell them you will raise hell if they continue to fill your child's head with false information that can make her miss GCSE questions in the future.

Then give them hell about 11-year-olds being told to go educate their parents. How dare they!

Just tell them how you feel about your daughter being brainwashed into believing dangerous things that quite simply go against human biology. Tell them what we all think of this ridiculous Trans movement. You don't need to be eloquent to get a point across, you just need to be confident with the idea of what you're saying.

Ageing, yes, it's in the UK. She's moving schools soon, which ds1 attends, so she'll be away from that hopefully.

I'd just finished reading the op and was about to post "brainwashing" as my first reaction.

What a very strange assembly. Are you going to write to the head then Gerbil?

Marvellous, so sorry about your dd. It's insane.

Dd had a similar anti bullying talk, hers was a full day, she's also y7, she was only told the day before, I rang school but nobody got back to me she was expecting to be told one of the male pupils will be now presenting as female and using the female facilities with the her girls. The day before they'd split PE into girls and boys and shed heard one the boys saying he should be with the girls for PE as he's trans.

She said that the day was more focus on racism, it's something that's been a big issue with other y7 tutor groups, and trans was briefly mentioned, more in the context of things that people may get teased for and what they should if they are bullied themselves or know someone who is.

it sounds an awful lot like brainwashing - just wtf is going on?

Wtf? How could any child taught like that expect to pass any science exams? 😳

marvellous
Is this in the U.K.?

This happens at dd(14)'s school. Every. Single. Week. She is the only child who sees through it, and is subjected to nasty, misogynistic and homophobic bullying because of it. She is being withdrawn from school. There are 6 trans students. 5 ftm's and 1 mtf. It is so ridiculous and biology lessons are virtually non existent now. DD was almost physically attacked today when she stated chromosomes in biology I really feel for her, and all of LGB - their rights are being overridden

OP - I also have an 11-year-old DD. I would treat this as any other incorrect information given to her for whatever reason. Get a biology book. Tell her about DNA, chromosomes, what makes a male or a female mammal. Let her figure out by herself why that presentation was wrong.

Just like when (years ago) some dimwit told her that stars are our dearly departed, shining forever in the sky I got hold of a kid-friendly astronomy book and taught her what stars really are and how they come to be.

Just like the few times over the years when she has been taught of one religion or another as fact.

I would also meet the head of the school and let him know what I think about them indoctrinating my child in scientifically incorrect nonsense and telling her she must now educate (EDUCATE!) us, her parents.

I would also ask to be sent a copy of the powerpoint presentation (and would follow this all through the complaints process)

Just to add...

I'd also want to know if any of the trans teaching clashed with any measures the school have in place against gender stereotyping. There are nut guidelines on this - the stereotyping. And what policies the school had on transgender students. Would there be any chance of the girls having to share single sex facilities with a male bodied person.

I think the first things I would want to know from the school are what info were the kids given and from which organisation.

Next I'd ask why it is my dd suddenly thinks that men can have vaginas, and whether they feel this is an appropriate thing for her age group to have been told.

There is something very sinister about all of this almost like it is some coordinated, covert operation. Who is funding all of this?

We had an outside visitor from an LGBT information organisation speaking at a PSHE day we ran at my previous school , who essentially ran through a PowerPoint saying, "see these me, they look straight don't they? They're not. See these men who look gay? They're not." The rest of the session was all on trans, including the words (verbatim) "Sex isn't important, it's just what's between your legs. It's gender that's real." Real? I was not impressed, either as a Science or Psychology teacher...

I'm really shocked by that.

We wouldn't let religious organisations use school time or facilities to lecture young children on how we all have a soul. To me this is no different - it's a belief, an ideology (that of "gender identity") being given unwarranted legitimacy. Saying "a man can have a vagina" is a belief statement, not a fact. But when an adult says it to a child, how is the child to know that??

Everything that needed to be said could have been said without once ever saying men can have vaginas. They could have said - we all need to be polite and try to respect other people's beliefs when they differ from our own. They could have said - some people choose to present themselves to the world as the opposite gender, and we should never use that as a reason to bully them.

I increasingly see this kind of thing as religious indoctrination - getting children to believe is crucial, just as with religion. And for that reason, it absolutely does not belong in schools, any more than the overt promotion of religion does.

I'd be writing some very firm letters in your case, OP.

You should! I would be furious there was no preemptive warning of it for parents.

I think I might object to the narrow focus on trans issues, and ask when they will cover the LGB side of things. I might also ask why they were telling the students biologically untrue statements. Did your daughter mention any kind of "lady brain" comments? That would royally piss me off and I would ask them to explain on what basis they were stating that.