LGBT Talks in School

I don't believe I do, but I know I must at some point. Whether it is wearing makeup at work as I don't bother at the weekend .

Newspeak is the fictional language in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, written by .... To speak rubbish and lies may be "ungood", but to do so for the benefit of The Party may be good.

George Orwell 1984

Does anyone conform to the gender role dictated to them?

Non conforming genders - news speak for individuality. Everyone is one but now you have to name it.

DFTT. I may have coined a new abbreviation!

Pizanfan

Do you think people should feed obvious trolls?

I realise the irony, but I'm bored.

Trans people ARE being heard, hence women being referred to as menstruaters

Isn't BLM more about black people being killed by the police in America?
I wonder how born men would react to being called ejaculators because not all men have penises? I think they'd tell the BBC to fuck right off.

Christ you dont half avoid the point being made.

Miffer - Do you believe that Trans people shouldn't get to be heard, or that there shouldn't be education for children on non conforming genders etc?

See the UK Black Lives Matter movement, they are offended by white people

Christ you don't half talk some utter bollocks.

Well the problem with that is that offence is in the eye of the beholder.

See the UK Black Lives Matter movement, they are offended by white people and the royal family, would this level of offence cause respect from the UK?

No group of people however large or small should be pandered to, especially if it causes offence to another group. You can respect people without pandering.

Somebody mentioned pandering to 1% of the UK population, can I ask what % is required before pandering is just?

I agree that lessons discussing gender in terms of stereotyping and sex class analysis would be very worthwhile. Most of us grow up with unconscious prejudices, "all men are bastards" "girls are bitchy" and the rest. Exploring the whole pink and blue brain issue would be helpful, as well as the difference between sex and gender.

Then, when or if, they are exposed to trans propaganda they will have the critical thinking skills to recognize the concepts as forming an quasi religious belief system rather than anything based in material reality, and equipped to ask relevant questions.

Because asking relevant questions is all you need to expose the bankruptcy of trans ideology. That's why TRAs place so much emphasis on silencing, rather than debating, those who question their agenda. That's why so few TRAs stick around on MN to fight their corner.

Also the Science Museum's recent pink & blue brains debacle.

Interesting contributions from teachers on this thread. I wonder if one thing they could safely do is go back to basics with a lesson about sex stereotypes early in secondary. So - e.g. what did people think in the past about girls' minds and personalities (that their brains would melt if given too much education); how were these gender myths debunked, from female scientists to Bowie and gay rights campaigners; what stereotypes are still around and how can they be damaging.
There's obviously a limit as to what one lesson can do but it might possibly head off some of the 'you've got short hair, you must be trans' stuff.

I would withdraw, NoRun.

You have no idea what is going to be said. I'd be perfectly happy if it was LGB without the T.

OP, don't let this rest, I'd be incandescent.

So school have sent home a programme for anti-bulllying day, the theme this year "It's good to be me" with a focus on celebrating people from the LGBT community. This is a special school for children with ASD. A rep from The Junction will give a talk on LGBTIQ, and a reminder of the plan for the day.

Would IBU to withdraw ds???

The issue I have with the Trans agenda, and before I say so I suppose I'll give you my stance on Trans issues.

I'm in the camp of live and let live, I frankly don't care who does what as long as it's not ilegal, or hurts anyone (Or if it does hurt someone as long as that person gives consent), I'd go as far as respecting peoples pronouns, and joint toilets etc, so I suppose I am all for Tran rights.

Back to my issue, this is a form of morality policing, exposing children to a miniscule number of the population, which if we're being brutally honest has severe depression and suicide rates pre and post ops etc. So promoting trans to children is irresponsible on a state level, if parents want to expose their children to it, thats great.

Which annoys me about the current feminist movement, in an attempt to empower the movement we seem to have aligned with every minority, including Trans and Muslims, which I find extremely ironic!

From the description it is not in any way an anti bullying presentation. They are, in fact, bullying children into conforming with boy/girl stereotypes or transitioning to comply with them.

Cisoff

That Rainbows letter was very good.

Year 9 students are not considered to be adults in my school. Before showing a video (of any kind) I check the age rating AND watch it myself to make sure it is appropriate. While the government may say that students have to learn some things or cover some topics, the resources to do this (such as videos) are up to the individual school to decide.

Ok Empress. I hear you.

Yes I agree with that Amelia however year 9 students are considered to be adults these days. (I still think it's unreasonable to show it in schools even for the oldest students tho.) But the govt decides not the parents. You get no warning, so its not up to the parents to choose anymore.

But the huge LGBT agenda is over the top and it should be stopped.

Only "LGBT" is a misnomer. It's the TRANS agenda & lesbians were left behind a long time ago.