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Oxford schoolgirl abduction didn't happen, police suddenly announced

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Yunitsa · 11/11/2016 15:30

Help, fellow feminists...

I've written a bit on other threads about my daughter (same age) being hugely upset about this abduction and rape. She was cycling along the same street at the same time as it was meant to have happened. As a direct result I've had to go back to giving her lifts to and from school.

This is a name change because it was all just getting a bit close to home/potentially outing.

I've had texts from her already this afternoon... news of this press release must have broken at school. She's confused. The girl was raped but not abducted? Why did she say she was abducted? Is she in trouble? Have the police made a mistake?
And then just now:
Now the police won't believe the next girl who is abducted. Is that right?

And this is before she's seen any of the vitriol that has already begun on social media... schoolgirls should never be believed, apparently; it wasn't rape either, more than likely, she just changed her mind after a threesome. Envy - vomit.

Anyone got any words of wisdom? I have to pick her up shortly and I have no idea what to say. I'm really shaken by this. Though also, of course, kind of glad that the abduction didn't take place and that my daughter might start to feel safe to travel alone again.

link here

Frustratingly the press release on TVP's website is now showing as having an orator and not loading. (It was working an hour ago.) Like more confusion is needed here. Hmm

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WomanWithAltitude · 11/11/2016 17:57

She must have said what she did because she was scared she'd get into trouble. Scared she'd be blamed. Scared that people wouldn't believe her.

And, horribly, she was right. Sad

I hope she knows there are people who believe and support her. She's not the first victim to have done this due to fear and self-blame, and she won't be the last.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:57

Yeah I get it, thanks.

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:57

Not "allegations of an offence" . An "offense".

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:56

I don't know why you are all trying to make it seem like I am building some sort of ''case'' or that I am trying to imply she was never raped.

I said that it's possible the story is made up, I never read anything in the news about the fact that they are looking at suspects or that there was evidence that rape took place.

I obviously misunderstood. But honestly cannot believe how hostile you all have been.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:55

The only nastiness is suggesting a 14 year old girl didn't suffer the awful ordeal the medical evidence shows she did.

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:55

From the police statement-

"Thames Valley Police continue to investigate an offence of rape against the victim"

AVirginLitTheCandle · 11/11/2016 17:55

Why does it say they are still looking into rape allegations.

Probably because they're still looking into it.

They've already confirmed the abduction didn't take place. They've never said the rape didn't take place.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:55

It doesn't say they are looking into suspects though. That's why I am confused.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:54

It's not about having an opinion. Your "opinion" goes against facts. You can't have an "opinion" that a rape didn't take place when there's medical evidence it did.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:54

I didn't understand what it meant but now I realised. I was genuinely asking. But now I see how nasty this is turning.

WomanWithAltitude · 11/11/2016 17:54

Whether she was abducted or not, it still sounds like she was raped. My sympathies are with her, and I hope she is well supported.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:53

They are still looking into it because they haven't arrested any suspects yet. What do you want them to confirm? She's been examined and there's evidence of a rape, now they need to find the attackers.

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:53

Nothing like pointing out an unfortunate typo to strengthen your case.........

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:53

Shit I forgot you can't have your own opinion on here.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:51

Thank you all who pointed it out. There will have been a full examination and it is NOT possible a rape didn't take place. The girl needs full support.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:51

Taped?

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:50

So why have they not confirmed it?
Why does it say they are still looking into rape allegations.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, although so far everyone is assuming I am even though I never wrote that. I am saying that from what I am reading, the way I perceive it, is that they're still looking into it, they haven't confirmed anything.

AVirginLitTheCandle · 11/11/2016 17:48

She was examined by a police doctor after the incident. There would have been evidence that a rape took place.

They've said they're not treating it as an abduction. That doesn't mean a rape didn't take place.

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:48

It's not possible, pickkledonions because they will know whether she was taped or not.

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:48
Hmm
Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:47

Yep that's what I put.

AVirginLitTheCandle · 11/11/2016 17:47

They aren't saying the rape didn't take place. They're saying the abduction didn't take place.

FFS why can't people read?

Pickled0nions · 11/11/2016 17:45

Because it's POSSIBLE IAmAmy

BertrandRussell · 11/11/2016 17:43

They will know whether or not she was raped. If they are still persuing the issue, then she was raped.

IAmAmy · 11/11/2016 17:38

My issue is "it's possible that the story was made up".