We will see a MTF transsexual US President before we see a female one.

I care very much about my rights as a woman, and have given it plenty of thought,thanks. This whole trans issue is a distraction. Once again it pits women against each other when we have real problems to worry about. Transwomen are really suffering out there and it is getting worse, (yes I know they aren't the only ones) they just want to survive, not "infiltrate women's spaces".

I'm sure there's more to it than "hmm I think I'll be the opposite gender today

lol someone hasnt been introduced to nonbinary tumblr/youtube..

Of course it matters, Yellowrose. It matters to many women whether men are allowed into female sex-segregated spaces. It matters whether women should have their rights respected. You've clearly given this around 10 seconds thought.

I'm sure there's more to it than "hmm I think I'll be the opposite gender today, just for a laugh" but why does it matter?

Yes of course. For genuine trans the whole process must be hidious and isolating. But they are not biologically women. It's a lie to call them that. Science tells us they are not women. So we shouldn't pretend they are. Because that's what we are doing- pretending. And I don't want to pretend that a mtf is a biological women and I don't want to lie to my daughters either. And because they are not biological women they shouldn't be given biological women spaces or opportunities because what about the real biological women who need them.

Should mtf play sports on women's teams - no. Because it's not bloody fair. They are not women.

Now - if it becomes so easy that being a women is based on purely word of mouth and his that person feels at that time - do you not think that some men will and do take advantage of that.

Paedophiles are in danger in male estate, should they be transferred to female too?
(And no, I am not saying transpeople are paedophiles, before that gem pops up)

Sorry just saw Kidnapped's post.

Women should be in women's prisons. A transwoman is in far more danger being in a male prison.

I would have no problem sharing a hospital ward with a transwoman, I'd probably be more concerned about getting better, and would probably never know anyway.

Sport is a difficult one, some biological women naturally have high levels of testosterone, wasn't there a case recently? Can't remember the woman's name but she basically had to prove she wasn't a man...

I'm sure there's more to it than "hmm I think I'll be the opposite gender today, just for a laugh" but why does it matter?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm worried about violence towards women, equal pay, reproductive rights being eroded.... it's not transwomen doing this!

I don't think it's a case of nobody caring about FTM - I just don't think they get anywhere to start making people uncomfortable:

Would a FTM be chosen for track running in sports - no.

Would FTM be put in a males prison - no because of risk of rape/sexusl assault

So it's kind of always women that get pushed to one side - that's why women get pissed off with it.

If I call myself a zebra am i zebra?? Could some one fly me to the plains of Africa to run free!

Trans women are not womenz, their DNA says so - (never mind about the cock they were born with) It's science init!

"(I notice nobody really cares about FTM trans people)".

Have a tiny think about why that is, Yellow.

Do you think that a female prisoner should have to share a cell with a convicted rapist?

What about hospitals? Do you think that female wards should include those men who want to stay on a female ward rather than a male one?

What about sport? Do you think that people who are born as men should be winning all the female races?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, then why not?

I'm thinking an oompa loompa will be president before... oh hang on...

Seems so, kidnapped...

Today I identify as HMRC. Please all send me 25% of your earnings everyone, or you all are a bunch of bigots

If you call yourself a woman, that's enough for me. Caring so much about what's between people's legs is kind of what misogynists do....

Did I mention what's between people's legs?
I don't get how you can have a label with no description. Makes no sense.
Might as well say I'm a snurkle.

What on earth is transphobic about this thread?

Does transphobic actually mean mentioning transsexual now?

I'd like to know why you seem to think transwomen have some kind of advantage over "real" women and what evidence there is for that?

Surely we have more important things to worry about than the existence of people who want to change gender, for whatever reason? (I notice nobody really cares about FTM trans people)

I think OP is right. A transwoman will get there before a woman.

at transwomen are women, get some perspective.

This thread is unintentionally hilarious. I can't help but laugh.

Anyone else get anything to say about getting perspective about how men are really women?

Here we go, I'll try.

Men are deffo women if they want to be. End of!!!

Any good? It is perhaps a bit more highbrow than the attempts of others but I think it conveys the message well.

If you call yourself a woman, that's enough for me. Caring so much about what's between people's legs is kind of what misogynists do....

yellow what's your definition of woman?

No they're not.

A transwoman as president would be a wonderful thing because transwomen are women.

Grow up, and yes, get some perspective.

Oh, you're teeeeeeeerrible, Dragon.

And entirely correct.

I think you all need some perspective and a big cup of calm the fuck down. Do you all obsess over trans people 24 hours a day? You do you, and let everyone else get on with their stuff.