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America would rather be led by someone who boasts of assaulting women, than a woman

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noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 07:39

And some people think we don't need feminism any more.

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user1478684818 · 09/11/2016 19:27

@BestIsWest, Trump's words, not mine

btw telling someone to f**k off isn't exactly a friendly expression either.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/11/2016 19:24

takes

I dont think anyone has said she should be elected JUST because she is a woman

I agree with river

RiverTam · 09/11/2016 19:20

I'd rather have a mediocre woman (though I fail to see how anyone can regard HRC, who is so immensely qualified for the job, as mediocre) than a misogynistic, racist, sexist, disabilist, morally devoid man.

BestIsWest · 09/11/2016 19:19

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Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 19:19

Elondon, it's worse than that - and I've said this before, it's just the result underlined it - many man pleasing type women have contempt for women.

user1478684818 · 09/11/2016 19:16

I guess we just gotta grab life by the pussy, as Trump himself put it.

takesnoprisoners · 09/11/2016 19:15

Why should Hillary be elected because she is a woman? All her corruption and scams should be tolerated, her lack of judgement tolerated because she is a woman?

I would love to see a woman lead the US. But a strong woman, someone who is not so corrupt like Hillary. I would love it if Michelle Obama would come to power. She is strong, sensible and has a great personality. She is my kind of strong woman. Also, her husband is a brilliant guy who will support her wholeheartedly(i think). I would rather wait and get a brilliant woman leader than a mediocre one.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 09/11/2016 19:04

Her speech was perfect and clearly came from the heart.

Elendon · 09/11/2016 18:52

Sian Norris has written an excellent piece on this. Yes, women have no idea how much men hate us.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/11/09/trump-s-win-is-a-victory-for-men-who-hate-women

scallopsrgreat · 09/11/2016 18:42

I've just read 94% of black women voted for Clinton.

Absolutely agree about the racism/misogyny mix. And as usual it will be black women coming off worse.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 09/11/2016 18:26

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 09/11/2016 17:54

dozer

The case was dropped just before the election

RiverTam · 09/11/2016 17:41

Can anyone link to her speech?

Xenophile · 09/11/2016 17:35

The speech she has just made was beautiful. She's not perfect, but she is a statesman through to the tips of her hair.

SenecaFalls · 09/11/2016 17:35

In the cold light of today, this is especially bittersweet, but moving nonetheless:

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/08/hundreds-put-i-voted-stickers-on-susan-b-anthony-s-grave.html

noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 17:19

I think the statement in the title is a bit OTT. The popular vote is 47.5% Trump, 47.7% Clinton at the moment.

When I wrote the thread title, the election had just been called and TBH the fine details weren't really on my mind. If Hillary wins the popular vote then that's pretty bloody frustrating because the country still elected Trump over her.

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Dozer · 09/11/2016 17:17

A poster on this thread alleges that Trump raped a 13 year old but wasn't prosecuted?

Wtf?!

Tiivola · 09/11/2016 17:09

Many women voted Trump, the gender difference wasn't actually that big, as it turned out.

I think it's a sign of how partisan politics have become: Supporters of one party will make huge allowances for the defects of their candidate, and see defects of the opposing candidate as evidence of complete villainy.

Hence the claims that "crooked Hillary" must be locked up because she used a private email server, but Trump's boasts about sexual assault are just "locker-room talk".

DoinItFine · 09/11/2016 16:57

That half of Americans who voted were prepared to vote for a ridiculous, blustering, ignorant, racist, ignorant fascist is very worrying.

scallopsrgreat · 09/11/2016 16:57

"...there has been quite a bit of Hillary-hate on MN and yes, even in FWR." Agreed.

YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 16:54

Fabulous speech to her followers!

tribpot · 09/11/2016 16:52

Oh god not the old 'defending a paedophile' thing again. And frankly even if she had done so willingly (bear in mind people do have the right to be represented in court) that doesn't make her a paedophile or a rapist (as DT was facing charges for again until recently).

SenecaFalls · 09/11/2016 16:50

who had no qualms about defending a peadophile and gloating that she knew he was guilty

Oh, for fucks sake, not this again.

I am fucking sick and tired of people on MN bringing this up again and again in complete ignorance of what actually happened. And another thing, for all the hand-wringing on this thread, there has been quite a bit of Hillary-hate on MN and yes, even in FWR. But if you are going to spew the hate at least get your facts straight. Angry Sad

Lottapianos · 09/11/2016 16:46

'i hope she's ok.'

Same here. She is one tough woman but just flesh and blood at the end of the day. I can't begin to imagine how exhausted she is. I think Trump was probably energised by his relentless nastiness and gaslighting but that's not her style, and facing a barrage of shit day in day out must really get to you at times, no matter who you are

Also gutted for Obama. The good work he did manage to do is about to be pissed away

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