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America would rather be led by someone who boasts of assaulting women, than a woman

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noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 07:39

And some people think we don't need feminism any more.

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YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 22:59

Yy giraffe

noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 22:56

I remember when the 'grab them by the pussy' recording came out. There seemed to be a real sense of horror, including among republicans who were condemning it. There was a hint that maybe they'd disown him, that he'd gone too far. It was quite heartening at the time. Then it all seemed to disappear, nothing happened and now the fucker has been elected.

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SenecaFalls · 09/11/2016 22:36

I don't think Obamacare was a big factor at all. It was something that Trump supporters often mentioned as a way to appear to have an actual principled reason for supporting him. What is going to be interesting is what happens when they get around to figuring out what to do with Obamacare. Removing health care from those who have it will have some political repercussions that I am not sure the Republicans fully realize.

Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 22:14

US friends also telling me obamacare a big factor?

tribpot · 09/11/2016 22:08

That's a myth as well, Last - the quote I mean. I agree it was about anti-Muslim/white supremacy.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 09/11/2016 21:56

I think it has so much more to do with anti-Muslim/white supremacy than anything to be honest. I think Trump would have won against any man. He said years ago Republican voters are so stupid they believe anything so if he was going to run it would be for the Republicans. Looks like he was right.

DeviTheGaelet · 09/11/2016 21:47

What is upsetting me is this shit narrative (brexit and this) that the "losers" Should just shut up.
What happened to "First they came...." I am quite scared what we are sleepwalking into

StealthPolarBear · 09/11/2016 21:45

True, what I meant was the implication of what he said was take her out of the running. She's already out of the running. The bully has won.

tribpot · 09/11/2016 21:44

We no longer have to worry about disgruntled trump supporters bearing firearms, doing his bidding.

Just the military doing it instead?

Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 21:42

Stealth, wtf? His election just gives them a mandate to behave like him.

OlennasWimple · 09/11/2016 21:37

Stealth - they will be emboldened Trump supporters instead Sad

StealthPolarBear · 09/11/2016 21:35

Oh great. Do you think they're a bit disappointed to not have an excuse? There goes thay silver lining.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 09/11/2016 21:33

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StealthPolarBear · 09/11/2016 21:29

Hey!! It's taken all day but I've thought of a silver lining. We no longer have to worry about disgruntled trump supporters bearing firearms, doing his bidding.
oh yes. This is the man who suggested his supporters SHOT his opponent. Then tried to weasel out by talking, quite frankly, bollocks. Diamond of a man. Very professional.

DeviTheGaelet · 09/11/2016 21:27

children if we don't get some form of more credible opposition I would consider it and I've never voted Tory.
If I lived in Scotland I'd vote for Sturgeon and I would vote for Wood in Wales.
I think our female party leaders are good compared to the male party leaders.

OlennasWimple · 09/11/2016 21:23

We (women) are our own worst enemy sometimes.

I'm profoundly depressed by what has happened.

noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 21:22

You don't get to vote for May unless she's your MP. Voters don't choose the Prime Minister.

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Lorelei76 · 09/11/2016 21:21

Children, no one is suggesting women deserve an automatic pass.
We are suggesting that a man who looks down on women, anyone not white, disabled people and even war veterans was the worse choice.

YonicProbe · 09/11/2016 21:11

Has corbyn been caught boasting about grabbing women by the pussy then, Stones?

Childrenofthestones · 09/11/2016 21:06

I take it you'll all be voting for May come the next election then?

MidMay · 09/11/2016 21:01

Senate women of colour has increased four fold post election (previously 1, now 4) according to an Independent article I've just read. Some progress, albeit small.

Elendon · 09/11/2016 20:12

Racists and sexists lie all the time and they lied re their voting intentions, hence the polls were skewered.

Great OP giraffe

Boolovessulley · 09/11/2016 20:08

I was gutted by the result.

DeviTheGaelet · 09/11/2016 19:59

Thank you for this thread giraffe. I've been feeling miserable about this all day. I get the impression that some of the voting was about "reasserting the natural order" (same with brexit). I don't fucking want the natural order where everyone is more or less shafted by the white man.

This quote by doin is perfect
If you overlook his racist and misogynist talk and vote for him anyway, then you are being a racist and a misogynist.

Elendon · 09/11/2016 19:39

Oh Lorelei I know. I know many women who have run themselves into the ground to please and serve and then are disposed of for a younger model, or submit to gruelling makeovers to keep themselves fresh.