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America would rather be led by someone who boasts of assaulting women, than a woman

286 replies

noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 07:39

And some people think we don't need feminism any more.

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VestalVirgin · 10/11/2016 18:51

This, exactly, Lessthan. I understand the emotional reaction; I, too, do not expect much from men and feel more betrayed when women do stupid shit like this - but some people make it look like the women who voted for Trump are more to blame than the men who did. And that's just plain nonsense.

It is okay to be angry at the women who betrayed their own sex, but one should never lose sight of the fact that it is men who elected Trump.

Had only women been allowed to vote, then the results would have looked very differently.

DeviTheGaelet · 10/11/2016 18:49

Don't know if piza is still around but just in case have a read of this from everyday sexism

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1804226003158655&id=1394162504165009

YonicProbe · 10/11/2016 18:48

Yy less.

Lessthanaballpark · 10/11/2016 18:36

What's pissing me off is how the focus in the media has been on white women "pushing" Trump to victory because 53% voted for Trump. And the misogynistic comments that follow blaming women.

Yet no one seems to pick up that 74% of white men voted for Trump. Because white men voting for white men is the norm and to be expected. Hmm

Elendon · 10/11/2016 18:30

Oh, and the USA would rather a president with balls. Isn't that right fan?

Elendon · 10/11/2016 18:28

Of course Donald Trump is the look all young men aspire to! They want hamster hair, orange skin, overweight pudginess and a mouth that pouts. What's not to love!

Trump is the one who looks ill. There was a prescient comedy sketch once about a man voted president who wouldn't get out of bed. That's Trump!

YonicProbe · 10/11/2016 17:57

Did he, Bertrand?

Bell end.

Pizanfan · 10/11/2016 17:42

I get the hate for Trump, although i disagree with why you hate him, I understand why he is hated...

But the love for Hillary is flat out stupidity!

Both candidates were bad candidates, Trump is a moron and could've been beaten by a thousand female politicians, Hillary was the reason Hillary lost, not her genitals!

Lottapianos · 10/11/2016 17:39

Clinton looking weak? Never heard such nonsense. The woman is an inspiration

Farage really is a creature from the sewer, isn't he? He's the gift that keeps on giving in terms of trying to identify rock bottom. Much like his new BFF Trump

BarbarianMum · 10/11/2016 17:27

Fine if you don't like Clinton but where on earth do you get that from? Electioneering with pneumonia makes you look the opposite of physically weak - most people with it are propped up in bed for a week. And mentally weak, seriously? How? When?

user1471451684 · 10/11/2016 17:20

I think that all the talk of rights being eroded, and racism is essentially pointless. We are one low blood sugar event away from him flipping out. At that point 100 million people will get heated to the point where their shadows catch fire. Then we are all in survival mode.

SpeakNoWords · 10/11/2016 17:14

Ok from a quick scan, a lot of that is about Bill Clinton. Some are not illegal but are something people might object to like large fees for public speaking. Could you clarify which of those apart from the emails represents allegedly illegal/criminal behaviour from Hillary as there are no links or further details?

SpeakNoWords · 10/11/2016 16:58

Can I ask a potentially dim question? The alleged criminality that's being referred to is the email thing, yes? Or is there something else?

hungarianhippo · 10/11/2016 16:55

Clinton did indeed look weak. Physically and mentally not up to it. Her potential criminal past aside she just wasn't up to the job. I think people saw that.

OlennasWimple · 10/11/2016 16:47

It wasn't all bad news in the election: some amazing women were also elected

shimmybear · 10/11/2016 16:36

How can I link this thread to Facebook

FreshwaterSelkie · 10/11/2016 15:49

The likelihood that American women are going to have their ability to access reproductive health care destroyed isn't sexist? Eh?

I'm sure that's how it will be. Women and men will be equally restricted in their ability to access to safe abortion. Wouldn't want to be sexist about it in the new, great America. No abortions for anybody!

Xenophile · 10/11/2016 15:24

I'm not sure you can argue that a man who has repeatedly stated that he treats women like shit isn't sexist. Well, you can, but you will merely make yourself appear to have only a passing relationship with either logic or rationality.

BertrandRussell · 10/11/2016 15:21

And now Farage has made a joke about Trump groping Theresa May........

You couldn't make it up.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 10/11/2016 15:03

The one thing that comforts me slightly is that at least Clinton will finally be able to collapse in a heap. She's been fighting illness for weeks, had almost lost her voice. She put up a brave show but it must've been tough. Pneumonia takes no notice of election cycles. Now she can relax, in as much as anyone in her position can.

OlennasWimple · 10/11/2016 14:58

At lest Obama has protected the funding for Planned Parenthood, even if states are in future allowed to overturn Roe vs Wade. I think Seneca has it right that women with the means will travel to states (East and West Coast, I would guess) that will retain access to legal abortion, women without those means (a disproportionate amount of whom will be POC) will be stuck or will seek out dodgy back street abortions.

The Catholic Church and other religious organisations supported Trump over Hillary simply because of her position on the right to choose. Again, privileged white men call the shots. Angry

BertrandRussell · 10/11/2016 14:10

Explain why policies that restrict women's access to abortion aren't sexist, please.

RiverTam · 10/11/2016 14:05

Ah, you gave yourself away there, Piz.

SenecaFalls · 10/11/2016 13:45

He doesn't hate women Are you serious?

His entire life is full of sexist and degrading actions and comments about women. And many of his avowed policies are anti-women. That's misogyny.