America would rather be led by someone who boasts of assaulting women, than a woman

Have you guys ever had a conversation, generally with a group of men, and because you disagreed with them, and refused to bow to their opinion they stopped listening to you, started mocking you, and twisted your words to try to humiliate you!

I really hope none of you have, I seem to have that a lot, and because I'm a woman my opinion doesn't seem as important to them, and it always ends with the group turning on me and me getting infuriated that I am not good enough to be there. Just for the record this experience is envoking the same sort of emotions, shame on you guys for doing this!

Devi

Clearly not. He has said some stupid stuff, but hes based his campaign on being non political, non polite, and a man of the people.

I've heard far worse from most men and women I know, but if you don't frame it in the right context then thats on you.

Like when he was foul mouthed and abusive to Rosie o Donnell, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Trumps campaign has been disgracefull, and purposely so. His campaign manager is a genius, who btw is a woman, woman rights activist, and the first ever woman to run a campaign for a Republican.

Does hiring this woman sound like the move of a sexist?

Goodness! A PhD?

Well, as we're all just a bunch of thickies, we should of course bow to the lovely doctoral gown and hood.

Oh, I dunno Rufus, I've found their posts to be illuminating and clarifying.

I doubt it's in the precise way they want, but nevertheless...

So you agree he is sexist then?

Oh my gosh pizan you have a PhD? Those are rare round these parts, Buffy especially has no idea, are you listening to the expert laydeez? snort

Devi

And I agree 100% what he said about that was disgusting, at least now we have a base to agree on!

rufus I think they are doing classic derailing like that thread we had a while back.
I notice we are quibbling about abortion law rather than whether it's fair to describe a man who said himself on tape that he just grabs women by the pussy as a sexist.
I tend to think straight from the horses mouth is the best kind of evidence personally but what do I know?

Buffy

If I cited a FB meme on my PHD I wouldve been laughed out of uni! I suspect your either being sarcastic, or have quickly googled it.

Why has this attack started on me as a person when all i'm doing is pointing out dishonesty.

Hate Trump, I HATE TRUMP ALSO, but you guys don't seem to understand that hating him, and accusing everyone and everything of sexism isn't helping the feminist movement.

Feminism is struggling right now, and we are losing women who are turning away because of the dishonesty, if you guys hate me for speaking out, but I reach one strong woman who doesn't turn her back on feminism because of this hate and dishonesty then so be it!

I'm sorry you guys can't have an open discussion, and just want to gang attack.

According to the Washington Post, Trump corrected himself and said the doctor performing the procedure would be punished. He said that his position was the same as Reagan's, pro-life with exceptions. Reagan's ultimate position on abortion was only where the life of the mother was at risk.

Bertrand

No he didn't! He clearly said that his view on abortion is pro life and in line with the catholic church.

He then said that if abortion was banned, it would be illegal to have an abortion, and any woman who did have an abortion would have to have some form of punishment. What that punishment could be noone could say.

Do you not believe someone breaking the law should be punished?

I have no idea how piz can post how they do and then have the audacity to say educate yourself

No dear. I don't want people to hate anyone. And, if you have done any work for women's issues, when you show so little understand of the concept, I would actually be astounded.

Jog on, kitteh.

" I havn't worked this hard for womens issues to have it hampered by anger and hate from the people I fight for!"
Do some more! This is great!

"Intellectually incorrect"
You are very entertaining

You mean people breaking the law.

See now when you put it in terms of his desire, and looking forward to punishing your not acting smart, you clealry know the context of the talk, but because of your hatred you actually want to twist it to convince others to hate.

I have no idea why people are like this, if you hate him great, as I do, but do so honestly, because when your dishonest you actually harm women, and the feminist cause, and I understand I am coming across brash, but I havn't worked this hard for womens issues to have it hampered by anger and hate from the people I fight for!

"This is just a flat out lie, he never said he would punish women who wanted to control their own bodies,"

Well, that's a cab bit of barrack room lawyering! What he said was that a) he wants to restrict abortion rights and b) women should be punished for having abortions.

Sorry my link doesn't meet academic standards for defining sexism as defined by you
Rofl

During the debates, Donald Trump only ever spoke about late term abortion, not abortion in general. There are a lot of pro-choice people who are also against late term abortion.

But, I don't think he'll touch the abortion laws. Roe v Wade was a landmark case, and that kind of thing can't be changed easily. He'd be sealing his own fate by even trying (there's a reason previous Republican presidents have either never tried or never gotten far with it).

Well, thankfully, it seems that Obama has put an end to Trump's desire to control women's healthcare. So he won't be able to punish all those women he was looking forward to punishing.

Poor lamb.

Devithegaelet

Thanks for posting that, as i've mentioned a few times FB memes, Tumblr posts and Buzzfeed articles are not citable sources, and should not be taken seriously. If thats where you get your info then please find elsehwere to educate yourself.

At least half of that list is intellectually incorrect, for example:

When he says women should be ‘punished’ for controlling their own reproductive systems, that’s #EverydaySexism

This is just a flat out lie, he never said he would punish women who wanted to control their own bodies, I like the way it quotes the word 'punish' to gain credibility. What he said was that he would punish women who break the law, within the context of abortion being made illegal, those who broke the law would be punished. When the law in the UK came in about driving while using the phone, did you not comply or receive punishment?

I am not a lifer, but if abortion becomes illegal you have 2 choices, comply or recieve punishment.

Do you now understand why these FB memes are not to be taken seriously, they are agenda'd dumbed down snippets of false info design to be easily spoon fed and swallowed to people who don't want to research but push a narrative.

It all raises questions of internalised misogyny. Of course there are just hateful women out there who are racist and nasty but I would say there's also something in the "if you can't beat them join them" philosophy and it feeling better to go along with the prevailing system at full speed in order to convince yourself that everything is ok and that you're not affected by it.