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America would rather be led by someone who boasts of assaulting women, than a woman

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noblegiraffe · 09/11/2016 07:39

And some people think we don't need feminism any more.

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kesstrel · 16/11/2016 07:52

Devi I think libprog meant "not put too much weight on the racist/sexist aspect of Trump" in the sense that 'people voting for him because he is racist/sexist wasn't the biggest reason he won'. Rather than not being personally bothered about racism/sexism. At least that's what I took the rest of her post to imply.

DeviTheGaelet · 15/11/2016 20:31

lib I don't know you at all but this statement bothers me I would not give too much weight on the racist/sexist aspect of Trump. I assume neither racism or sexism affect you?

amaravatti · 15/11/2016 20:13

www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2016/11/hillary-clinton-lost-because-her-gender-and-it-hurts-hell

Visceral impact of this result.
But time to get to work.

libprog · 15/11/2016 10:24

I would not give too much weight on the racist/sexist aspect of Trump. He won because people hate Hillary and because he courted "the forgotten", i.e. best example is the rust belt where he won back states. Now your argument is they shouldn't have voted for him at all given his racist/sexist remarks, but then you have to acknowledge that Hillary has been put in a really awful light. So for them it was sexist vs crooked Hillary. So voting for the guy saying he will keep their jobs in America (manufacturing) and focus on America is much more appealing than the one for globalization, something they do lose out for. Because it's true, overall globalization is beneficial to countries, certain groups of people lose. And these made Trump president.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 12/11/2016 10:09

yonic

If he is a keeper then you should share

YonicProbe · 12/11/2016 09:23

Hands off, Lumpy, I saw him first!

Wink
LumpySpacedPrincess · 12/11/2016 08:12

I wish they wouldn't delete, now I wanna know what Muttsnuts said, bet it was super flattering about women.

YonicProbe · 11/11/2016 21:15

That's so lovely MuttsNuts! Thanks so much! Have you got a girlfriend, you sound ace?

Muttsnuts15 · 11/11/2016 21:09

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 11/11/2016 19:09

Thats sad

But i suppose thats the way it works as well

Even with brexit here the happy people 'outnumbered' the pissed off

In the usa its the other way around...that cant be good

SenecaFalls · 11/11/2016 18:20

As more votes have been counted, Hillary's lead in the popular vote has grown to 400,000.

Pluto30 · 11/11/2016 04:26

That's true Seneca. I suppose there's nothing to lose from running in 2020. If the DNC haven't cleaned themselves up by then, I don't see them having many viable candidates, so she may well stand a chance at the nomination.

SenecaFalls · 11/11/2016 04:18

If Elizabeth Warren runs, she would likely need to do it in 2020 because of her age. If she waits until 2024, she will be 75. One thing that is good about the US electorate is that they don't mind electing older people, but 75 would be pushing it.

SenecaFalls · 11/11/2016 04:10

Olenna I certainly hope Elizabeth Warren runs in 2020. I think whether she will or not depends on what happens with the Trump administration.

5to2 · 11/11/2016 03:33

Totally agree on Trump.

But I'm unclear as to whether HC is to be held up as a feminist icon, when there seemed to be a number of reports of her saying she would "destroy" women who accused her husband of rape? Of which there were several. What happened to I Believe Her?

Pluto30 · 11/11/2016 02:59

I don't think another woman will run again in 2020, but possibly 2024.

I like her. I'd be happy to see her run.

OlennasWimple · 11/11/2016 02:52

Seneca - do you think Elizabeth Warren will run in 2020 / the future? (She is who I want to be when I'm grown up... I used to think that her lack of political experience would be a barrier, but given who has just been elected president...)

YonicProbe · 10/11/2016 23:46

"Why don't you try actually talking to us, instead of throwing insults around post after post"

Radical, Buffy!

SenecaFalls · 10/11/2016 23:28

He then said that if abortion was banned, it would be illegal to have an abortion, and any woman who did have an abortion would have to have some form of punishment. What that punishment could be noone could say.

But the problem is that this is not the Republican Party position, but Trump didn't know that when he made this statement about abortion. He used to be pro-choice. He changed because he would never get the nomination if he were pro-choice. But he didn't do his homework when he shifted positions. The Republican Party takes the position that women who get abortions should not be punished, just the doctors and nurses who provide them.

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noblegiraffe · 10/11/2016 22:29

“Do you believe in punishment for abortion – yes or no – as a principle,” asked Matthews.

“The answer is there has to be some form of punishment,” said Trump.

“For the woman?” Matthews said.

“Yeah, there has to be some form,” Trump replied.

“Ten cents, 10 years, what,” Matthews asked again, pressing.

“That I don’t know,” said Trump.

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 10/11/2016 22:23

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Xenophile · 10/11/2016 22:22

Yup, we're mocking you because we disagree with you.

Totally.

No wonder you got that PhD.

Pluto30 · 10/11/2016 22:16

Pizan, nope, and I work in a male-dominated field (law enforcement).

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 10/11/2016 22:15

Was it about Christine de Pizan?

Your PHD i mean

DeviTheGaelet · 10/11/2016 22:12

Grin love it! Men who feel entitled to sexually assaulted women can't be sexist if they hire a woman. Got it. Grin
What was your PhD topic by the way?

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