Glamour Magazine allows transwoman to redefine feminism

Of course, stat, oppression in and of itself doesn't determine the characteristics of the oppressed.

The definition of woman isn't 'someone who is oppressed'.

How many more definitions does he have to try before he can find one that fits both him and women FFS.

TRAs explode with all manner of insults, shouting down any minuscule amount of disagreement to the rhetoric. I agree, it weakens women's arguments to get involved in a slanging match. But, despite it being a massive relief to be able to point out the ridiculousness of the layer upon layer of flaws in the argument, even sticking to irrefutable facts gets you shut down.

There are plenty of men oppressed by gender - I'd say men who work in traditionally more female roles such as childcare are oppressed by gender for example as they come up against a huge amount of prejudice and discrimination because they are doing a "woman's job". They're not bloody women though.

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Yes the transactivists will find any comment that does not correspond with their delusional ideology unkind.

That article was hateful and I don't need to be nice in response

One of the comments:

"The bottom line is anyone who is oppresed by gender and is subordinated to men is a woman and needs feminism."

No! Being not-a-man is not the same thing as being a woman!

I don't think unkind personal comments help either tbh especially in discussion with people like Juno. The problem is that such people tend to consider a very wide range of things to be unkind, such as saying "feel free to dress and present however you want to a person with a penis is a man"

I didnt get blocked for making unkind personal remarks either....

I know Buffy but I'm not going to be nice and use 'preferred pronouns' for fuckwits. Fuckwits will have their pronouns provided for them.

Haven't tried to contact him on Twitter though, can't be arsed with that

I didn't get blocked for making unkind personal remarks Buffy
I got blocked for pointing out that there are actually quite a lot of documented accounts of men in women's clothes assaulting women in toilets.

buffy as far as I can see no one from mumsnet has had a go at Juno on Twitter, just told him how it is.

who has made unkind personal remarks? and what were they?

I've never been interested in feminism I've just got on with my life. I found most of the arguments confusing and felt most didn't apply to me as I've rarely felt oppressed because of my gender (only at work when training to use heavy machinery was never offered to me despite being one of the only women to ever use a lawnmower, strimmer and wear a 15kg leaf blower for 8 hours a day) but that article was one of the most outrageous things I've ever read and I must say it has made me less sympathetic towards transgender people and I didn't have much in the first place.

Hasn't he kind of shot himself in the foot? If he is the voice of today's transgender groups he doesn't appear to have done them any favours.

Bloody hell. That's ... Telling isn't it? (The keeping their cocks stuff)

Oh come now, we all know what it really means to be a women. It means using every waking moment to obsessively think about what you look like and how many people in your vicinity want to insert parts of their body into your body. That's it. Nothing else.

Not doing this, not only excludes you from the womanhood club but, (if you also don't qualify for the manhood club), it actually means you cease to exist in any tangible way.

So I think you lot have some apologizing to To do to Juno et al. Without them showing you the way, you'd all be existential blobs of atoms. Think on that, you bunch of ingrates.

thanks Datun took me ages to come up with that one

I would do the pronoun thing out of politeness for those who are post op and just living their lives but for this joker....nah, he will remain a he.

It's when a man 'identifies' as a woman, but not quite enough woman to have his cock lobbed off. He then refers to said cock as 'her lady dick' and seek to coerce lesbians into sleeping with them, because they are now, like, real women And a lesbian too.

It seems that most transwomen prefer to keep their cock. Someone else might have the stats to hand - they have been posted on here often

I would call Juno a cunt, but that's probably doing my own genitals a disservice

Still snorting

Why does he need to call himself a woman to wear a skirt and make up? I do neither of those things so does that make me a man?

This shit just becomes madder by the minute

Lol @ lady dick btw

I'm not doing the pronoun thing anymore. To do so is agreeing with the fuckwit trans-ideology. I will not lie to be so called 'progressive'.

Words matter.

(By the way I meant to say 'is that what 'they' think?)

What is the whole female penis thing Ibelieve?! I can't figure it out in my tiny lady mind

So is it that someone who is a man and has a penis but thinks they are a woman, their penis becomes a female penis?

Mozfan
How about a lady dick? Def doesn't describe female genitals...