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Glamour Magazine allows transwoman to redefine feminism

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MrsJamin · 04/11/2016 15:50

Call yourself a feminist? Our transgender columnist Juno Dawson's here to see if you really pass the test

And calls women who don't "TERFs". Thanks, Glamour and Jo Elvin, thanks a lot.

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Datun · 04/11/2016 18:42

What it boils down to is, am I somehow less of a woman?

Possibly the most sexist comment ever, positively dripping with mysogony, entitlement, ignorance of biology and idiocy.

TheHiphopopotamus · 04/11/2016 18:31

I remember why I stopped buying Glamour. It was because they introduced this tool as their new columnist.

Just what women have been waiting for. A person who was born a male to come along and explain feminism for them.

'What it boils down to is, am I somehow less of a woman?'

If you're a man/have a penis/were born male then yes of course you're less of a fucking woman than, y'know, actual women (note; not cis-women Hmm)

The comments are brilliant.

DanaBarrett · 04/11/2016 18:28

Are you reducing people to genitals Statistically? cluches pearls (sorry, I've been on Twitter most of the day, it's been interesting)

StatisticallyChallenged · 04/11/2016 18:24

That article has made me rage so, so much. Get right to the very very far side of fuck with trying to tell women how to be feminist. Most of the comments are heartening but there are a few which are beyond infuriating.

The eejit who says "we don't call a woman who has had a mastectomy busty" as a reason why we shouldn't call a post-op TW a male is a bit hard of thinking (understatement). Busty is a descriptor of someone with a large bust. That is the only thing it means. If someone has a mastectomy (and no reconstruction) they will no longer be busty. Man is a person with male chromosomes and male reproductive organs, who (barring medical condition or puberty blockers) will have gone through male puberty and acquired adult male physiology. Removing their penis and testes gets rid of one of those qualifying descriptors. One. Doesn't make you a woman.

Unless you think that a woman is just a vagina, of course.

DanaBarrett · 04/11/2016 18:22

It's very obvious where Glamours loyalties lie. It's with anyone who identifies as a woman obvs. Not actual woman, just the ones who identify as women, whatever that is.

MrsJamin · 04/11/2016 18:16

Oh my goodness, Glamour are handling it terribly on twitter. Terf is a slur and they can't get away with publishing this!

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QueenLaBeefah · 04/11/2016 18:12

Just read the article and Juno can fuck the fuck off. Also the comments are brilliant.

misskelly · 04/11/2016 18:12

Jezzo, can you tell I'm dyslexic, lol. I swear I read before I posted. Transactivist not train activist.

Lovecat · 04/11/2016 18:11

And 10 people have liked it. Jaysus...

FlapsTie · 04/11/2016 17:35

Could you reach any further to be offended, Juno? Pretty sure this sign means the bogs are for customers only, not whatever twanzphobic spin you're trying to put on it Hmm

Glamour Magazine allows transwoman to redefine feminism
Datun · 04/11/2016 17:29

Not just transwomen in your spaces, ANY man, ANY where who just says he's trans. Come one, come all.

Xenophile · 04/11/2016 17:29

Juno is hardly an expert on being a woman, given that they've been one for only about a year. Therefore they can kiss my womanly arse.

Feminazi · 04/11/2016 17:24

I feel sorry for that poor dog he's holding.

IamNotDarling · 04/11/2016 17:17

How fucking delusional is Juno? Argh! I get the rage when I read bollocks like this.

Don't even get me started on fucking 'cis' and 'terf' Angry

WhisperingLoudly · 04/11/2016 17:17

Jo Elvin on a webchat would be great

misskelly · 04/11/2016 17:15

It's the double standards that I find mind boggling, transwomen fear violence in male toilets so want to use women's toilets and don't get why women might fear you?? Why don't the trains activist tackle the attitudes of men? Why are they so hell bent on being viewed as women and so willing to trample over those who don't want to open up women only spaces to male bodied people. Is it too hard to understand that if you allow anyone who self-identifies as a women in to women only spaces, then you can't tackle anyone's right to be in that space, therefore, women only spaces cease to exist.

BenLinusatemyhomework · 04/11/2016 17:09

OMG! "soz" but Juno needs to like, include like in her, like writing because everybody like, totally knows that you're not a like, a real woman if you don't like, talk like a Valley Gurl!!

BratFarrarsPony · 04/11/2016 17:08

" I would have thought it was written by an amateur "

I would have, like, thought that too

ageingrunner · 04/11/2016 17:08

Wow I'm surprised that he was an author pre-transition. I would have thought it was written by an amateur Confused

Cocolepew · 04/11/2016 17:07

We should ask for Jo Elvin to come on for a webchat.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 04/11/2016 17:03

Juno was a successful YA author writing as James Dawson before transition.

The dismissal of women's valid concerns in this article is quite breathtakingly arrogant. Heartened to see some of the comments though.

OurBlanche · 04/11/2016 17:02

Fuck... last long comment from a man had me a little tiny bit angry...

Listen, not to downplay your struggles but cis women are not the less privileged party in this equation.

Let me count the ways....

BratFarrarsPony · 04/11/2016 16:59

" Juno isn't being paid for Juno's brilliant writing skills."

I should bloody hope that Juno is indeed not being paid for such drivel

venusinscorpio · 04/11/2016 16:57

Juno isn't being paid for Juno's brilliant writing skills.

Lottapianos · 04/11/2016 16:56

'This article shows some deep misunderstandings about feminism, and is happy to throw around the term 'real feminist' whilst preventing us from ever using the term 'real woman'. That's a no from me'

From the comments. Good stuff. Glamour really should go and get knotted.