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CBBC - just a girl

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kua · 29/10/2016 23:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3885922/Parents-slam-damaging-BBC-sex-change-aimed-six-year-olds.html

Someone listened , I didn't think it would be the DM though!

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Miffer · 30/10/2016 00:31

I dont know, i dont really understand it because im not transgender!

Then how do you know what it's not?!

Just like i dont really know what being gay is because im not gay.

False analogy. I didn't ask what it felt like to be transgender. I dunno what it 'feels' like to be gay or lesbian in as much as I don't understand the experience of being gay lesbian in our society. I know what it is though. It's being sexually attracted to people of your own sex and not sexually attracted to people of the other sex. Did you not know that?

If my son said to me that he didn't fancy girls or that he fancied boys I would think "ah my child is probably gay". What is the equivalent with 'trans' kids? If my son said "I feel like a girl" then my first response would be "how would you know?". Apparently the answer is some indescribable feeling.

I don't feel like a woman, I am one I can't tell you what it is like to be cisgendered because it's a made up thing that has no meaning.

HedgehogHedgehog · 30/10/2016 00:30

and im not arrogant enough to believe i have any right to tell another individual what sex they are.
I know what sex i am, i know what gender i am. How another person defines sex and gender and their relationship to those things is none of my business. Its that persons business.

Just because you have no experience of something does not mean it doesnt exist. Weather you like it or not people are able to change their anatomy to that of the opposite gender now and some of them want to do that in a way that is incredibly deep seated and intense.
Now you can sit here and mouth off about weather its 'real' or 'right' or what the fuck ever, but it doesnt change the fact that its happening to people and so it does need talking about.
Its happening to children so it does need talking about.

I dont feel its my place to judge in terms of right and wrong other than what is causing pain and what isnt. In my view a program like this stands to lessen pain for children who may be experiencing something like what the character depicted is experiencing. Both by making them feel like they are not alone and also by providing insight into how they may be feeling to their peers.

Its such an incredibly difficult thing to go through physically and mentally that i find the suggestion that kids will do it on a whim because they saw it on tv completely and utterly ridiculous.

HedgehogHedgehog · 30/10/2016 00:21

I dont know, i dont really understand it because im not transgender! Just like i dont really know what being gay is because im not gay.
But i do know what it is to be straight and to believe i am a woman so if its as deeply as ingrained thing as those things then i dont think anyone is going to be convinced by a tv program to change.
If your child is transgender a program like this will help them massively not to be ashamed of themselves and to understand that they are not alone. If your child isnt transgender, they may be puzzled by it but it will not make them transgender!!!
Honestly can you not see what you are saying and how similar it is to the anti gay rhetoric of the past? People used to say that depictions of gay people in mainstream media would encourage young boys to experiment, would encourage peadophilia, would be trendy so that loads of children who didnt want to be gay would be forced into doing it to look cool and all sorts of mad rubbish.
The only thing it does is to help children who were already feeling that way put their feelings into words and to help children who dont feel that way understand those that do.

Miffer · 30/10/2016 00:15

I am sure Hedgehog will be back shortly to tell us.

kua · 30/10/2016 00:13

Feck knows...no one has been able to explain.

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Miffer · 30/10/2016 00:11

I can't watch this because the BBC website hates me and I wouldn't trust The Daily Mail while I had a fucking hole in my head.

Until I watch it I will have to withhold judgement but I would be deeply troubled about a show aimed at 11 year olds talking about puberty blockers.

Being transgender is more than just wanting to play with toys aimed at the opposite gender or not wanting to wear clothing designed for their gender

Cool, what is it then?

MrsKCastle · 30/10/2016 00:06

you dont need to be worried that 'tomboy' children are all suddenly going to decide they are actually boys or vice versa.

If we keep telling children that it is possible to change sex and that they could well have been 'born in the wrong body' that is exactly what will happen.

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 30/10/2016 00:05

Do what you want, where what you want, fuck who you want. I'll support your right to do so.
But you will remain the same biological sex you were the moment mr sperm met ms egg.

BeyondReasonablyDoubts · 30/10/2016 00:03

I will not explain to my child that some people are born in the wrong body as that is codswallop. Zero scientific evidence to support this propaganda.

HedgehogHedgehog · 29/10/2016 23:56

Dont get why this is a problem. Just the same as gay story lines will not make your child gay, transgender storylines will not make your child transgender. Talk to your kids and explain what this all means so they are not confused or worried. Its not hard. Being transgender is more than just wanting to play with toys aimed at the opposite gender or not wanting to wear clothing designed for their gender etc etc you dont need to be worried that 'tomboy' children are all suddenly going to decide they are actually boys or vice versa. It really really reminds me of the things people used to say about gay, lesbian and bisexual people being represented in childrens programs.

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