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woman loses residency of son she was raising as daughter

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BombadierFritz · 21/10/2016 18:38

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3859618/You-caused-son-great-harm-insisting-raising-girl-Boy-seven-sent-live-father-mother-raised-daughter.html

hmmm. ok so its daily mail reporting but I am conflicted
perhaps good if child was being pushed into something he wasnt
but wtf with the boringly stereotypical insistance on the type of toys played with

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Datun · 29/10/2016 15:19

What a prat ! Talk about proving a point !!!!

ArcheryAnnie · 29/10/2016 15:17

Woah - what the hell happened there? I mean, it took me five minutes of googling to find a film of someone I am reasonably sure is the mother in question, after Fox Fisher wrote that terrible article. But posting a name outright is not so much crossing a line as talking a marching band over it, then digging the line up, then setting fire to the landscape.

ageingrunner · 29/10/2016 15:16

Really? They outed someone? 😮

iPost · 29/10/2016 15:15

Thank you Hugh.

Always good to have screenshots (that can allow for real names to be redacted) to demonstrate the nature of a charity that (thanks to you) now looks like it goes for unlovely tactics like

-"we know who you are" overtones to try and shut a critical former user down.

-what looks like an attempt to intimidate a critical former user of a charity via a deliberate partial outing (first name) leaving the threat of a full outing hanging in the air.

I didn't think my view of this charity could fall any lower, but you surprised me.

kua · 29/10/2016 15:14

Almond totally agree. Mermaids came on here to out a member and their child yet had the cheek to talk about taking data protection seriously.

Bloody hell. What kind of organisation is this? !

ElsaAintAsColdAsMe · 29/10/2016 15:10

Hugh you have seriously crossed a line there. I've reported your post and hope MNHQ take it down quickly.

almondpudding · 29/10/2016 15:07

Hugh, your post speaks volumes about Mermaids, that you are revealing personal information about a minor. I will be reporting your post.

SpeckledyBanana · 29/10/2016 15:05

So, did you have her permission to publish her first name here?

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ArcheryAnnie · 29/10/2016 14:45

I think Mumsnet has already removed any derogatory transphobic comments on here.

What remains are a lot of interesting conversations and exchange of boths facts and opinion on a really important issue. If Jane Fae doesn't like those conversations remaining on here, that says a great deal more about her than it does about Mumsnet.

iPost · 29/10/2016 14:18

Jane Fae is trying to make Mumsnet remove all derogatory transphobic comments.

I think Jane Fee has missed the boat timing-wise to go all round up the HERETICS! delete the TRANSPHOBES! on MNHQ.

There has been a tang in the air for a while, indicating that the winds of change are stirring. Mermaids being right slap bang in the middle of a sudden picking up of the breeze ... does not strengthen their position in terms of flexing their muscles at well known entities. Not least cos well known entities probably do not want to get dragged into a series of high profile stories that likely will include naming entities who mindlessly responded with "how high?" when Mermaids ordered them to jump.

I'm not anticipating a hurricane that tears it all down any day now. But IMO there will be a growing wind chill factor that makes it incrementally harder for Ye Olde Censorship Via Faux Outrage to continue.

and a big fat Halle-fucking-lu-jah to that.

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 29/10/2016 12:10

No I get that Pausing but at least the madness of the situation is getting some attention. The Guardian just print the Lefty view and delete comments from dissenters.

PausingFlatly · 29/10/2016 12:08

(As an aside, thank you to whoever posted, among other excellent links, the link to The Transparency Project. I saw the Child Protection Resource take off on MN, and take my hat off to the people who created that and have now created The Transparency Project. Fantastic work. Flowers)

PausingFlatly · 29/10/2016 11:54

The DM don't support women.

They use women as a vector to attack other groups they don't like. And vice versa, of course.

There can be some mileage in this sometimes - supping with the devil and all that. Just as long as you don't confuse being used as a vector, with actual support or approval. They'll dump on women from a great height the next day.

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 29/10/2016 11:15

Not sure either but perhaps they do sometimes

But they are taking up the topic

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3883858/Interview-chill-parent-Social-workers-accuse-Christian-family-emotional-abuse-homophobia-refuse-let-teenage-daughter-undergo-sex-change-14.html

God, the ironic hell of the DM supporting women in this and the Guardian throwing us under the bus

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/10/2016 11:05

Mermaids is on the case retweeting claims that the DM are not publishing pro-trans comments on that article

I didn't know the DM moderated comments? Shock

Datun · 29/10/2016 10:59

The DM will be drip feeding their info. Wonder what else they have?

ladyballs · 29/10/2016 10:22

Jane Fae is a colossal arse.

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 29/10/2016 09:47

Mermaids is on the case retweeting claims that the DM are not publishing pro-trans comments on that article

tubasinthemoonlight · 29/10/2016 09:15

One of the former committee members who left Mermaids before me told me this morning about that article in today's DM. I also heard elsewhere that Jane Fae is trying to make Mumsnet remove all derogatory transphobic comments.

iPost · 29/10/2016 07:24

Two articles in 2 days triggered by this case

Yet another high profile Trans news story bound to cause an awful lot of people to review their position on "a woman is a woman if they say they are a woman". Cos... rapist.

The memory of Kids Company still fresh enough for people to make comparisons and find too much similarity for their liking.

Mermaids are living in interesting times.

MrsJamin · 29/10/2016 06:58

I'm actually really impressed by that article. Very glad that Mermaids is being critiqued, early transing of children and bullying childhood professionals is NOT OK. A parent support group that went far too far.

LoveMyPatio · 28/10/2016 21:51

Very good article. Thanks for sharing

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/10/2016 20:50

Here is an article by Helen Lewis in the New Statesman

Thanks. Was a good read :)

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